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Old 04-16-2006, 10:46 AM   #4921
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I gave the TC4 4* c-hubs a go today. All I can say is I'm very impressed
I compared them against (with std yok hubs) :
running the link on the top of the hub and using the lower hingepin hole
And running the link on the middle of the lower holes, also when using the lower hingepin hole.
The first option was quite sluggish, encouraged bodyroll and was slow to respond.
The latter was very twitchy, not a lot of cornerspeed and overall hard to drive, but fast.
With the TC4 hubs, the link angle was as if there was an in between with the 2 other options. The car was very stable, easy to push, lots of cornerspeed and was not lacking in steering at all.
All this testing was done on a small, carpet track with a front one-way. The reason I didn't try the upper hingepin hole on the hub is because I know this to make the car very aggresive mid-corner, more suited to Japan's tracks.
I suggest you give these hubs a go, and they are more adgustable as they come in a wide range of castor angles! I've only tried the 4* ones so far....
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Old 04-16-2006, 11:06 AM   #4922
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Guys this must be the drive shafts that come with the Masami version!!
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Old 04-16-2006, 12:56 PM   #4923
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yea those are the ones very good them
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Old 04-16-2006, 02:55 PM   #4924
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Almost done with my Build! Here are the noticeable difference from the BD.
The rear tower
the steering assembly, which clears the belts
the hinge pin mounts, on the front rear and rear front.
the CVD's, but I think its better to use steel for the front, well if you crash like me-- then change it, but if you drive like masami then stick with it hehehe
the white belts and titanium screws and the bearings which you can really notice when you spin it.
It also ha a "1" on the front knuckles

Here are some pictures, not done with the shocks yet.

I also changed the rear hubs (i have an extra one), used .06 spurs.


fpart: just follow the stock settings first, (it's masami's) just change it after a few runs if you are not comfortable with it. My friends run theirs yesterday and said the steering was more agressive, with regards to the springs will get back on you, my instructions is in Japanese some has english in them.
Thanks but there is no setup sheet in my masami kit. All I can do is set up the stock BD since that is in the instructions. Did everyone else get setup sheets in thier masami kits. All I had was one sheet(in japanese) which showed the parts different than the stock BD's.


BTW I agree the car spins very freely!
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Old 04-16-2006, 02:59 PM   #4925
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I just bought the ceramic bearings for BD !!! I thought that it will be better to let them open from one side!! They will spin more free!!! Would you do that ??? Will they have any problem at the future?? any matter of dust or...??
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Old 04-16-2006, 03:10 PM   #4926
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I wouldnt as the gearboxes are not sealed. So you will get a lot of dust and dirt in the bearings. I run ceramics and they are free enough without the shield off.
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Old 04-16-2006, 03:22 PM   #4927
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You are right about the gearbox but what about the inside of rear hubs and front uprights and maybe the steering posts??
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Old 04-16-2006, 04:21 PM   #4928
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yea those are the ones very good them
Ali are you comin down to BRCA nationals at stafford in 2 weeks?
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Old 04-16-2006, 08:31 PM   #4929
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Guys this must be the drive shafts that come with the Masami version!!
Guys, this is suppose to look like what I have on my old TL-01LA.. except this is carved from high grade aluminum then blue anodized,
what is the MAIN BENEFIT of this UJ version than current crop (/MIP) CVD driveshaft or Losi's LCD
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I do not have a part number for the blue aluminum CVD's. They are much lighter than the steel version, but they bend easily.

Better to get the steel ones!!
LEM2 - Did you remember to enlarge the holes of the C hubs where the front universals pass through? Not doing so will cause some rubbing . . . . and undesirable scratches.

ZACH/LEM2 - The BDM comes with WCSP front and rear universals.

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Old 04-17-2006, 01:40 AM   #4931
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Ali are you comin down to BRCA nationals at stafford in 2 weeks?
I certainly am. I'll be at all the stock nats this year
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Thanks but there is no setup sheet in my masami kit. All I can do is set up the stock BD since that is in the instructions. Did everyone else get setup sheets in thier masami kits.
Where the instructions tell you to put things like camber links, shocks, springs etc - all those things make up the standard kit setting. You could easily transfer these settings to a standard setup sheet yourself.
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I certainly am. I'll be at all the stock nats this year
Nice1, i will be down there for modified, might seek ur setup help if i manage to get a BD before then
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Where the instructions tell you to put things like camber links, shocks, springs etc - all those things make up the standard kit setting. You could easily transfer these settings to a standard setup sheet yourself.
Thanks, I unerstand that. However, I find it hard to believe that Masami runs the exact stock BD setup on his car.
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Thanks, I unerstand that. However, I find it hard to believe that Masami runs the exact stock BD setup on his car.
Obviously he wouldnt always run the standard Masami edition setup on his car. The kit setting is more than likely one he feels works well in many situations and is a good starting point.
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