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Old 12-20-2005, 09:19 PM   #4021
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i'm confused as all get out,, on the front hinge pin, when i have a spacer under the rear split mounts, and no spacers under the front, my front end is very "twichy" with it flat all around or up in the front it settles down.
and when grip is down, why do you go to a stiffer spring in front. i do the opposite, i go softer in front. maybe its just our driving styles
Let me confirm what you wrote, do you mean the position of front hinge pin is tilted downward / ( like aeroplane's landing position) ? If yes, then twichy (very responsive) is what you get. I don't like twichy handling, so I tilted upward \ for the hinge pins.

When grip is poor, I have lose rear traction when exiting out of corner under full throttle. I use harder front to make it slight understeer even at full throttle ( Actually I should exit softer and not full throttle ).
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:27 PM   #4022
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Hi Guys,

Just want to post a quick note that the Team bomber hop-ups for the BD are in stock

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Old 12-20-2005, 10:35 PM   #4023
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awww man, I placed an order 2 days ago, and now I gotta pay $8 shipping again to get 2 belts .
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:42 PM   #4024
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SPRING RATES YOKOMO AND RAYSPEED

Can anyone assist me with the spring rates between Yokomo and rayspeed springs.

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Old 12-20-2005, 10:47 PM   #4025
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I dont have the Rayspeed chart handy..
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:49 PM   #4026
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Cool SPRING RATES

Thanks VORTEX all I need now is the Rayspeed info.

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Old 12-20-2005, 10:55 PM   #4027
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awww man, I placed an order 2 days ago, and now I gotta pay $8 shipping again to get 2 belts .
tell us how much better they are, please.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:58 PM   #4028
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If you do a quick search of this thread with the search bar in the right of your screen, you will find that it has been posted a number of times in previous pages.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:13 PM   #4029
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Wink SPRING RATES

Thanks Shopkeeper. I have found what I wanted by using the search function.

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Old 12-21-2005, 07:10 AM   #4030
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Can you post your set-up??? .
sorry for slow response, have been away from my computer for a bit.

The carpet masters track is very flowing, not like many others with many fast, flowing corners with very high bite carpet, this might not work on a very tight, twisty track.
carpet masters track
setup:
FRONT ONE-WAY
DIRECT CENTRE PULLEY (this where it's interesting, I originally used a 1-way pulley, it was smoother to drive but slightly slower. However, when running the locked you need to knock your steering trim forward a bit (electronically is the best way) to stop the car scrubbing out in corners and to help carry more corner speed)
FRONT:
NO ROLL BAR
INLINE STEERING BLOCKS
4*HUBS
2* CAMBER
0* SKID ANGLE
1MM UNDER BOTH SUSP. MOUNTS
6MM DROOP
ARM POS.:4-0
SSS SHOCKS
SHORT SHOCK END
63MM LENGTH
RAYSPEED RED SPRING
55 SHOCK OIL
SHOCK PISTON:3x1.1MM (make sure you drill out the std pistons or buy the rayspeed/tamiya ones as the thick oil struggles to get through the std holes)
1 O-RING
USED BOTTOM HOLE ON C-HUB, WASHER ABOVE STEERING BLOCK
OUTER HOLE ON WISHBONE
2MM UNDER INNER CAMBER LINK
INNER SHOCK POSITION ON TOWER

REAR:
NO ROLL BAR
O* HUBS
2* CAMBER
0* SKID ANGLE
0MM UNDER BOTH SUSP. MOUNTS
5MM DROOP
ARM POS. 2-2
SSS SHOCKS
SHORT SHOCK END
63MM SHOCK LENGTH
RAYSPEED WHITE SPRING
50WT OIL
3x1.1MM PISTON
1 O-RING
STD CAMBER LINK HOLE ON REAR HUBS
BOTTOM HOLE ON HUB
OUTER HOLE ON WISHBONE
3RD OUT HOLE ON SHOCK TOWER
0MM UNDER INNER CAMBER LINK

5MM RIDE HEIGHT ALL ROUND

tyres were cs22 pre glueds, using jack the gripper additive, full on the back, quater on front tyres

the motor was an eXpress monster, with blue/green springs geared at 7.43

bodyshell was protoform g6, very neutral, I'm going to try a ride stratus mk.3 next round to give the car a slightly looser feel.
hope this helps!
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:53 AM   #4031
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if anyone wants a short video to see how this setup goes shoot me an email and I'll send it you, only 6mb
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:22 AM   #4032
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Toe? Or do you run without toe-in in the rear?

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Old 12-21-2005, 09:15 AM   #4033
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I'm a bit confused. What is the droop measurement shown in the setup sheets? I know what droop is, but the way it is measured is not clear to me. Please advice
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Toe? Or do you run without toe-in in the rear?

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my mistake, I used 3* toe block

I measure my droop with the gauges that AREN'T hudy, ie ones that don't have minus- figures on them. I always measure to the bottom of the castor block. Yes this can be a problem when using the different hingepin holes, especially with the std setting when the block sticks out under the wishbone, but becoz this setting kills steering, rasing the wishbones (less droop) will get the response back. It's all very confusing and I'm sure there are hundreds of people that will disagree.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:15 AM   #4035
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Sorry but don't know how to quote, but the new Team Bomber are belts are very good, I have friends who are yokomo team drivers and brought some back from the Japanese nationals. They noticeabley free up the car,the centre shaft reduces some of the slop found in the drivetrain.

I saw speedtech had all of it in and thus ordered it. Impressed with service and would recommend them to anyone.
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