Hot Bodies Cyclone
06-11-2009, 03:42 PM
06-11-2009, 09:51 PM
Help !! My son (Alex) has decided to give on-road a try so we bought the Cyclone S, now he wants to change the gearing to the TC gearing ? which would take bigger pulleys ? and different belts ? I went to the hobby store and they did not know what we were talking about. Can somebody provide exactly what we are looking for ? or maybe a place online where I can find these parts 
06-12-2009, 12:26 AM
The POM ourdrives are made from the same material as the POM differential outdrives that come stock in the TC kit. I've noticed wear is very minimal on these, but they aren't the most durable things in the world. At the reedy race, I ended up using the steel outdrives just for extra peace of mind.
What the team has found, the steel outdrives work best when used with MIP CVD's in the front of the car. The MIP CVD's don't fit as tight in the hub bearings, and give a little bit of slop there. That helps take some of the chatter out as well. When using the POM outdrives, we suggest using the HB Ver 2 universals as they fit tighter in the bearings and the combinded amoutn of slop isn't too much. It seems to be the best combo for the POM outdrives.
As far as other questions about chatter, check to make sure you have at least version 2 HB universals or MIP CVD's. The ball joint and range of motion is greater on these, so they chatter significantly less. Also, there will always be some chatter with a spool, so a little bit isn't much to be worried about. Especially in an unloaded condition like turning the car upside down.
If you guys are still concerned about chatter, hot bodies has just recently released their DCJ driveshafts which have two universal joint in them, much like designs from Losi or Xray.
http://www.hotbodiesonline.com/products/en/67699.html
http://www.hotbodiesonline.com/products/en/67731.html
-Korey
What the team has found, the steel outdrives work best when used with MIP CVD's in the front of the car. The MIP CVD's don't fit as tight in the hub bearings, and give a little bit of slop there. That helps take some of the chatter out as well. When using the POM outdrives, we suggest using the HB Ver 2 universals as they fit tighter in the bearings and the combinded amoutn of slop isn't too much. It seems to be the best combo for the POM outdrives.
As far as other questions about chatter, check to make sure you have at least version 2 HB universals or MIP CVD's. The ball joint and range of motion is greater on these, so they chatter significantly less. Also, there will always be some chatter with a spool, so a little bit isn't much to be worried about. Especially in an unloaded condition like turning the car upside down.
If you guys are still concerned about chatter, hot bodies has just recently released their DCJ driveshafts which have two universal joint in them, much like designs from Losi or Xray.
http://www.hotbodiesonline.com/products/en/67699.html
http://www.hotbodiesonline.com/products/en/67731.html
-Korey
Very helpful information Korey. All your efforts to help out cyclone racers are truly appreciated. I'll try to find the POM outdrive cups. In the meantime, however, I switched to slightly worn steel drivecups and there is some reduction in chatter. The first 60% steering goes smoother while some chatter remains on the latter 40% towards full steering lock. I will try things out at the track tomorrow and hope to notice less front end chatter under load. Thing is, I never experienced this with my previous cyclone original black edition. Then again, I ran with center and front one ways on that one. Thanks again!
06-12-2009, 02:30 AM
Help !! My son (Alex) has decided to give on-road a try so we bought the Cyclone S, now he wants to change the gearing to the TC gearing ? which would take bigger pulleys ? and different belts ? I went to the hobby store and they did not know what we were talking about. Can somebody provide exactly what we are looking for ? or maybe a place online where I can find these parts
longer front belt - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...8&I=LXTKW7&P=K -- HB Part numb# 66493
longer rear belt - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...8&I=LXTKW8&P=K -- HB Part numb # 66494
18t pulley - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...8&I=LXTKW6&P=K -- HB Part numb # 66492
18t center oneway - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXTKW5&P=7 -- HB Part nuumb # 66491 (if you want the one way)
06-12-2009, 06:48 AM
I'M BACK!!!! HB most controversal racer ever will be back running the car that many in Norcal fear
After running Scotty Barnes' car last weekend (not even Hara could stay on pace ) Please direct all statements and questions to Korey. He will be more than happy to answer all pm's
Hiro- I need some stickers bro
After running Scotty Barnes' car last weekend (not even Hara could stay on pace ) Please direct all statements and questions to Korey. He will be more than happy to answer all pm's Hiro- I need some stickers bro
Plus no one talked with you on the other one
06-12-2009, 09:01 AM
06-12-2009, 09:11 AM
Call Billy at Speedworld, I think he has most of those parts hanging on the wall.
http://www.speedworldraceway.com/Con...tore_Hours.cfm
06-12-2009, 10:23 AM
Looking a Andy Moore's cyclone, and also the FXF Cyclone kit the bulkheads dont have that extra brace coming down, so being this cyclone had plastic front bulkheads I tried it out. I dont know that id take this to alu bulks. But if you take away that front part, you can scoot the servo up, drill and tap the bellcrank (I think thats what its called?
), pop a ball stud in it, and bam!Sorry for the crappy pic, took it at 3 in the morn on my cell LOL.. Nothing is stuck down or anything, so yea
06-12-2009, 11:59 AM
Might have to try that. Still upgrading my "S" and i can't really see any reason to get the aluminum bulkheads. I do plan on adding the TC shocktowers and mounts though. What would be the disadvantage of sticking with the palstic bulkheads?
06-12-2009, 12:41 PM
Looking a Andy Moore's cyclone, and also the FXF Cyclone kit the bulkheads dont have that extra brace coming down, so being this cyclone had plastic front bulkheads I tried it out. I dont know that id take this to alu bulks. But if you take away that front part, you can scoot the servo up, drill and tap the bellcrank (I think thats what its called?
), pop a ball stud in it, and bam!Sorry for the crappy pic, took it at 3 in the morn on my cell LOL.. Nothing is stuck down or anything, so yea
but not have saver ,
so upper deck & lower deck open more 2 hole for choice.
06-12-2009, 12:43 PM
new ver. gold & Silver shock spring arrived again !
06-12-2009, 01:10 PM
Call Billy at Speedworld, I think he has most of those parts hanging on the wall.
http://www.speedworldraceway.com/Con...tore_Hours.cfm
http://www.speedworldraceway.com/Con...tore_Hours.cfm
06-12-2009, 02:05 PM
06-12-2009, 03:35 PM
I'M BACK!!!! HB most controversal racer ever will be back running the car that many in Norcal fear After running Scotty Barnes' car last weekend (not even Hara could stay on pace ) Please direct all statements and questions to Korey. He will be more than happy to answer all pm's
Hiro- I need some stickers bro
After running Scotty Barnes' car last weekend (not even Hara could stay on pace ) Please direct all statements and questions to Korey. He will be more than happy to answer all pm's Hiro- I need some stickers bro
06-12-2009, 04:35 PM
