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Old 08-23-2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO
I have a question one way guys


I run a spool, But most people in stock run one ways, I mean the fastest guy at my track runs a spool, but he runs a xray

I want more steering flat out, I need more on AND off power steering, like not just give it more dual rate, I need more then that, while trying to keep the cvd's from binding up

And since my swap to BL I have lots more power which made it worse, I could never get the inside pass in the tight turns, And the guy I battle with uses a t2007 with a one way

What should I change to give me more all around steering?

Or should I go to a one way? What would I change to move to a one way?

EDIT, guess I should tell you guys what im running now

2deg on camber front and rear
3.0 pivot block in the rear, 2.5 in the front
40wt shock oil
Hara's grey soft shock spring kit
silver sway bar up front, black in the back
0 toe in the front
4 degree c hubs
front shock are in the 3rd hole being stood up
Rear shocks are in the 4th hole from being stoo down
3mm of ackerman

Thats it lol, any other info needed, ask me, I want to get this going

EDIT 2

I have the moore speed.. So I have the center one way and the front one way, Should I do the center and front? Or what should I do?

No one wants to help me? I need some steering in this baby! Some tuned steering, in and off power, not dual rate, or epa
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:03 PM
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If it is pushing because you have too much rear traction, try standing up the rear shocks or shortening the rear camber link. Both should give you a little more initial turn in and allow the car to rotate more off power.
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Originally Posted by mo
If it is pushing because you have too much rear traction, try standing up the rear shocks or shortening the rear camber link. Both should give you a little more initial turn in and allow the car to rotate more off power.
Thats what I was trying to say! lol thanks MO!

My rear shocks are pretty layed down
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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO
Thats what I was trying to say! lol thanks MO!

My rear shocks are pretty layed down
Black rear swaybar? most people use the soft copper or at most the silver in the rear, i have never attempted to run the heavy bar.

This could be locking the rear in too much, and not allowing the suspension to work properly.
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Originally Posted by Besercoe
Black rear swaybar? most people use the soft copper or at most the silver in the rear, i have never attempted to run the heavy bar.

This could be locking the rear in too much, and not allowing the suspension to work properly.
Im not the only one.....

But I was running no sway bar, and then I put my silver back on, and Vill (local racer) told me to try black, And it drove pretty good, But I will put my silver back on

What would a stiffer sway bar do? I thought it would limit traction in the rear being stiff
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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO
I have a question one way guys


I run a spool, But most people in stock run one ways, I mean the fastest guy at my track runs a spool, but he runs a xray

I want more steering flat out, I need more on AND off power steering, like not just give it more dual rate, I need more then that, while trying to keep the cvd's from binding up

And since my swap to BL I have lots more power which made it worse, I could never get the inside pass in the tight turns, And the guy I battle with uses a t2007 with a one way

What should I change to give me more all around steering?

Or should I go to a one way? What would I change to move to a one way?

EDIT, guess I should tell you guys what im running now

2deg on camber front and rear 1.5deg F/R
3.0 pivot block in the rear, 2.5 in the front no change
40wt shock oil 35wt F / 30wt R
Hara's grey soft shock spring kit med in front/ sof in rear.
silver sway bar up front, black in the back No! silver in front copper in rear
0 toe in the frontok
4 degree c hubs ok
front shock are in the 3rd hole being stood up wce tower: 3rd hole from the inside
Rear shocks are in the 4th hole from being stoo downwce tower: 5th from the inside
3mm of ackerman 4mm

Thats it lol, any other info needed, ask me, I want to get this going

EDIT 2

I have the moore speed.. So I have the center one way and the front one way, Should I do the center and front? Or what should I do? if you're running stock - try thr front one-way only in front only. no center oneway just remember when using a one-way do not use your breaks. practice alot with it.. if you don't like it.. switch back to the spool.

also camber links in the inner holes.
F: 3mm R: 1.5mm
ride ht: R: 5.mm F: 4.5mm

I'll tune your car next time I get to SWR. hopefully soon. the same way I tuned Brad's car a few months ago..
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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO
No one wants to help me? I need some steering in this baby! Some tuned steering, in and off power, not dual rate, or epa

What droop are you running probably one of the most useful tunning aids you can do.

Less droop(arms closer to bottom of chassis) more steering higher droop less steering.

Read the manual and just try one extreme of droop to the other and see what you think.

This car is probably the car with the most amount of front traction available as to why not enough steering. It will most likely be a droop issue.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:43 AM
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Hey Guys
Havent posted in a while , but that because of all the great help on this thread...heaps to learn here...
My WCE AM cyclone is runnin real good and can allways do better,,,but now handles(goes sidways, not around)......so happy.......
To anyone wanting better set up than is give on this site.....you can be told how to ,,,,,but you will get even better once you learn how to set a car...I am.....
CHEERS to all fellow cycloner's
PS lovin the 13.5 class

As xxx mains says" all the alli carbon hop ups are nothin unless you can setup"

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Hey,

I like to know from somebody how i can get the best performance from
my battery (intellect 4200).
I see that the fresh EU champ is running a LRP 3.5t and it seems that
he running the full 300sec. with out any problem?
Please explain to me how this works, i like to learn.
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Originally Posted by eded1
Hey,

I like to know from somebody how i can get the best performance from
my battery (intellect 4200).
I see that the fresh EU champ is running a LRP 3.5t and it seems that
he running the full 300sec. with out any problem?
Please explain to me how this works, i like to learn.
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Hey Ed, you also here!

I think you're better off asking it in another thread.
But anyway, From my personal point of view I would say there are more factors involved to make the runtime with such a motor.
The biggest factor will be the drivingstyle. How efficient you can drive, like at the end of the straight letting the car roll rather than pushing it towards the corner at full throttle. I always keep in mind the "smooth is fast" method, but other things like gearing and track layout can also have a huge effect on your runtime. If you run on a wide open track where you drive a lot on full throttle you will save energy, instead off on a let's say technical indoor carpet track where have to drain a lot of energy out of the batteries because you have to accelerate more.
We'll probably discuse on this subject further tommorrow on the track.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rc-zombies
I'll tune your car next time I get to SWR. hopefully soon. the same way I tuned Brad's car a few months ago..
When are you going? I am in school no, So practice days CAN happen, but would be hard-ish

But sounds good!

Originally Posted by bjspinner
What droop are you running probably one of the most useful tunning aids you can do.

Less droop(arms closer to bottom of chassis) more steering higher droop less steering.

Read the manual and just try one extreme of droop to the other and see what you think.

This car is probably the car with the most amount of front traction available as to why not enough steering. It will most likely be a droop issue.

Droop is at 5mm in the rear, 4.5 in the front
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Originally Posted by Thraex
Hey Ed, you also here!

I think you're better off asking it in another thread.
But anyway, From my personal point of view I would say there are more factors involved to make the runtime with such a motor.
The biggest factor will be the drivingstyle. How efficient you can drive, like at the end of the straight letting the car roll rather than pushing it towards the corner at full throttle. I always keep in mind the "smooth is fast" method, but other things like gearing and track layout can also have a huge effect on your runtime. If you run on a wide open track where you drive a lot on full throttle you will save energy, instead off on a let's say technical indoor carpet track where have to drain a lot of energy out of the batteries because you have to accelerate more.
We'll probably discuse on this subject further tommorrow on the track.
Thraex, thanks for your response, any reaction on this is very welcome.
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Droop is at 5mm in the rear, 4.5 in the front[/QUOTE]


What rollcentre,s are you using, a lower one can also help the setups that we read for Hara, Andy Moore etc are more than likely on tracks with higher traction than us club racers race on.

Try 4mm on the rear droop it will give more weight transfer to the front should help you.
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Originally Posted by bjspinner

What rollcentre,s are you using, a lower one can also help the setups that we read for Hara, Andy Moore etc are more than likely on tracks with higher traction than us club racers race on.

Try 4mm on the rear droop it will give more weight transfer to the front should help you.

I have no shims at all under the blocks....

4mm with 4.5 in the front? Like Ramon (Zombies) said, he will tune my car next time hes at swr, I HOPE thats friday lol...

But I will try that
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along with the 2.5 piviot block up front how much more toe do you guys run when you put it on the setup board and would it be pos or neg.running asphalt high speed track.
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