AGNO

Nothing anti squat / dive, sorry I had to say in both pivot suspension.

Korey Harbke

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I haven't tried the older top deck before, so I have nothing to compare it to. Talking with Hiro, they are very similar. I doubt I would be able to tell a difference between the two to be honest.

I cut my upper deck because it smoothed the car out a bit, especially in high grip tracks. It does feel like it creates more grip in the middle and exit of the corner to me, so sometimes you might have to make a setup change or two to get the overall effect you are aiming for.

-Korey

Matt W

Thanks for the explanation korey.

Just checking, ive noticed that on the wce that the rear shocks are leant out at the top so they lean back, but on the tc the pivot spacer is turned around and they lean in. I was just wondering if this makes any difference to the feel of the car?

Tommy Bergfeldt

Apparently the Xray guys are spacing the shocks quite often to change the behaviour of the car..
I didn't think it'd make that big (or at all..) until i tried it a couple of weeks ago.
Mounting the rear shock closer to the tower creates a bit more steering.

ShaunMac

Interesting. When you move it toward the tower. Do you remove only upper shims, making the shock lean forward toward the tower? Or do you remove upper and lower shims, moving the entire shock toward the tower?

I have always shimmed my shocks as straight (perpendicular to chassis) as possible.

Jaz406

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That makes sense because it will stand the shock up more. Interesting way to tune, Cyclone owners without the wce style towers can achieve the same effect as moving 1/2 holes by adding spacers.

Jaz406

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I had this issue of the car mid corner breaking loose. I stiffened the rear of the car to get the grip i needed.

thicker oil or springs

have someone watch your car through the corners , is the inside rear wheel lifting right before the car snaps around?

tomracing

I do believe the wce upper deck has more flex then the Tc version. also i did find a difference (be it small) in lap time on a test i did on our local large tarmac track. I also used a cut wce topdeck once and the car was slower and felt very lazy.

but what we are tuning here is actually a bit strange to me. creating more torsional flex (by cutting the topdeck) disconnects the front and rear roll stiffness more.
normally (if the chassis was infinitely stiff) the front and rear roll stiffness would form a balance point we can tune to. now if this balance would be way off your car would not handle well of course. by allowing more flex we disconnect this balance allowing the roll stiffness balance to be off the optimum.
Now would a car be faster with optimal roll stiffness balance and a connected front and rear roll stiffness
OR
are there cases where the roll stiffness needs to be wrong so the only way to get it to work would be to disconnect the effect by allowing flex?

decibels

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well i actually run the original black cyclone top deck but i cut it through the middle as well as i preferred the stiff feeling more. befor i cut it the car had a tad off understeer at speed on low grip tracks and after cutting it is really nice now. i always run it over the tc deck and i have a cut one as well. plus i cut the rear alloy mid deck so it is stiff front to back but flexes a little side to side. And i get the added benefits of extra motor cooling. I really like this setup whenever i change it sometimes the car feels better but it is slow. I also run slightly lower roll centres only .5mm to 1mm under toe blocks all round.

AGNO

I think that shift the burden of the shock affects the center of gravity will move back spot behind the C of G (decreases the power steering), rewinding the scrap, the C of G increases the steering, as I said Tommy.
The same (reversed) for the front shock absorbers.

RC MARKET

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Purple LED Pit Light arrived !

Luppi Stefano

Hi guys!
Exotek conversion, requires special set-ups to make better?
Requires a set-up more different from the original TC?
thanks

Gwoodrc

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Anyone got a good starting set up for vta with a cyclone running lipo/21.5 on a small med/high grip carpet?

Troy Pinkston

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I'm looking for the same thing. I have a S that I put the TC chassis on. Running the S top deck.

SpidarX

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Has anyone ever used 30mm rear tires on their cyclone tc before?
Where I run, we use nitro foam tires on asphalt. The rear wheels are 30mm wide, but I'm having clearance issues when running the 30mm wheels. The wheel rubs on the camber link ball stud. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks