Originally Posted by Scott B

Ah, NO!!!!




Now that's just DAMN FUNNY!!!

We also want Hara to build all the cars that come out oh HB's Warehouse!!!

Originally Posted by macaofriend

Yeah, HB...listen to your customers...we want:

1. A chassis designed specifically for Lipo.
2. A chassis designed specifically for 5 cells.
3. A chassis designed specifically for 6 cells.
4. A chassis designed specifically for asphalt.
5. A chassis designed specifically for carpet.
6. An extra thick chassis designed specifically for rookies.
7. A chassis that is scratch resistant for asphalt.
8. A special edition anodized in Blue but has a REAL winner's name associated to it.

Or you don't have to listen to your customer and just keep doing what you are doing with upgraded parts every so often for a well designed and proven chassis.

Originally Posted by Hebiki

if you haven't tried it.. how do you know its a flaw?

my point to you is, dont complain about an asymmetrical upper deck.

your other post mentions you crashed so hard your tape broke. you should worry about driving clean before you worry about an asymmetrical upper deck.

your beef with HB is securing your lipos, not an upper deck design.

Originally Posted by billythekid

Thanks for the photos, Tom. Currently, I use side way tapes to secure the SMC packs.

Honestly, I am quite dissapointed that after lipo has become the standard for years, HB has yet to come out with a practical solution for lipo. I have been waiting and waiting, hoping HB has been working on a good solution that doesn't require their customers to make time consuming customizations. And yes, I am very dissapointed. The unsymetrical upper deck that they just released is simply an ad hoc bug fix, which doesn't really resolve the problem for securing lipo packs. What are they thinking? Now I feel like I am at an disadvantage driving a Cyclone. I truly hope HB will come out with a more thoughtful solution very soon. Is it really that difficult?

Originally Posted by macaofriend

Yeah, HB...listen to your customers...we want:

1. A chassis designed specifically for Lipo.
2. A chassis designed specifically for 5 cells.
3. A chassis designed specifically for 6 cells.
4. A chassis designed specifically for asphalt.
5. A chassis designed specifically for carpet.
6. An extra thick chassis designed specifically for rookies.
7. A chassis that is scratch resistant for asphalt.
8. A special edition anodized in Blue but has a REAL winner's name associated to it.

Or you don't have to listen to your customer and just keep doing what you are doing with upgraded parts every so often for a well designed and proven chassis.

Originally Posted by Advil

I fell out of my chair when I read #8 LMAO!!!!

Originally Posted by billythekid

Scott, you will bash someone even though he is pointing out a real flaw or simply expressing his honest opinion about HB's product? Do you really think you are really helping HB in the way you reponded? Or you simply got too much time and have nothing to do? Furthermore, you do not really understand what I was trying to express, you just like to bash .. huh?

By the way, the Xray and Corally solutions are offered by the manufacturers' themself, not after market parts.

I wish some management people from HB see this thread and get you fired. If you are really representing HB, you are giving them a bad name.

Your response says that HB do not care about what customers think, just take it or leave it. A company who cannot take customer's opinion seriously will eventually go down. Well, I guess you won't know much about that.

Originally Posted by billythekid

Scott, you will bash someone even though he is pointing out a real flaw or simply expressing his honest opinion about HB's product? Do you really think you are really helping HB in the way you reponded? Or you simply got too much time and have nothing to do? Furthermore, you do not really understand what I was trying to express, you just like to bash .. huh?

By the way, the Xray and Corally solutions are offered by the manufacturers' themself, not after market parts.

I wish some management people from HB see this thread and get you fired. If you are really representing HB, you are giving them a bad name.

Your response says that HB do not care about what customers think, just take it or leave it. A company who cannot take customer's opinion seriously will eventually go down. Well, I guess you won't know much about that.

Originally Posted by billythekid

I have not tried it, so I do not know. Anyway, that was not my point. Perhaps it is time to switch to another brand, since I would get killed for simply pointing out some flaws in HB's products. Why waste my hard earned money?

Originally Posted by Scott B

"Standard for years", What??? Roar just approved them for racing LAST year, besides there only legal for ROAR raceing. Most of the other countrys haven't changed there rules for lipos yet. So should HB's build a new lipo friendly car just for the US??

What manufacter designed there car to secure lipo packs, besides TOP??? NO ONE!!! Everything out is aftermarket.

As for the "unsymetrical upper deck", it didn't hurt Korey H. when he ran it at this years Reedy race, he qual. 2nd and finished 3rd also Tq'ing the 3rd round of Qualifing!!!

I ONLY use one piece of strapping tape to hold my lipos in and I haven't lost one this year!!! (TP 5000 on a PPD plate) And yes I DO hit the walls!!!

If you feel at a disadvantage driving a Cyclone, because the 5 year old car wasen't designed to hold a lipo maybe its time for a change!!!

Originally Posted by billythekid

I shaved approx 2 mm off the alum mount, so clearance is not a problem for me. I do wish HB will offer a cleaner, out of the box usable solution for securing lipo packs without bumps and also for adding weight to the right side of the chassis.

Presently, I add weight to each of my packs, which is kind of a pain, because I also use those packs in my other cars, which doesn't need the weight.

I currently secure my packs with tapes. They have never come off until yesterday, when I had a bad crash and the battery pack slid out from the side and broke a tab off my speedo. That was painful.

Cyclone has some holes at both side of the battery slots, I am sure they can some out with a solution, as there are already many good examples out there for other cars.

Originally Posted by billythekid

I have not tried it, so I do not know. Anyway, that was not my point. Perhaps it is time to switch to another brand, since I would get killed for simply pointing out some flaws in HB's products. Why waste my hard earned money?

Originally Posted by DG Designs

Geez there is a lot of drama on this thread! I'll let you know when i finish my lipo chassis! The wannabe engineer in my has some wild ideas!