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Old 06-10-2012, 11:12 AM   #136
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I agree and the problem isn't Novak's or Rob's.

For whatever reason though, that's where people put the blame. Maybe those complainers should complain to their favorite manufacturer for a VTA legal ESC.

ESCs that can't be hooked up to a computer and manipulated eliminates MANY headaches for MANY people. There SHOULD be more of them on the market.
Awesome way to put it.
Rob has said, literally 100 times what the ESCs have to be. Since we are becoming a blinky society, "popular" ESC flavors had better be coming out with blinky only, no reason to fiddle inside, type of ESCs. They all likely would quickly be approved. Then cranky people can buy a black, a blue, a purple, AND orange ESC and try figuring out why the hell they're 2 laps off the pace.
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Awesome way to put it.
Rob has said, literally 100 times what the ESCs have to be. Since we are becoming a blinky society, "popular" ESC flavors had better be coming out with blinky only, no reason to fiddle inside, type of ESCs. They all likely would quickly be approved. Then cranky people can buy a black, a blue, a purple, AND orange ESC and try figuring out why the hell they're 2 laps off the pace.
If they are all the same then why will the new ones be 2 laps off the pace?
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If they are all the same then why will the new ones be 2 laps off the pace?
Because people concentrate so much on motor/ESC they overlook the small things that add up to better times. It can't be I crash once a lap, it must be the ESC that other dude is running.
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Because people concentrate so much on motor/ESC they overlook the small things that add up to better times. It can't be I crash once a lap, it must be the ESC that other dude is running.
You are making an invalid corallation (and over generalization). you are suggesting you can't run a different motor / ESC and still be fast.
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I don't understand all this, it's the_rules____ rules! It would be like showing up to a Nascar race with a Daytona Prototype and Nascar saying, well being as you already have this car, we'll for go the rules. It's a class with a set of RULES, period. The gentlemen who have given their time to make this class what it is have done a great job! I call them gentlemen for putting up with all this BS, it's the rules for the class plain and simple, if you want other manufacturers, contact them and complain, let them submit a part that fits the RULES. It's not run what ya brung, it's VTA.
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I don't understand all this, it's the_rules____ rules! It would be like showing up to a Nascar race with a Daytona Prototype and Nascar saying, well being as you already have this car, we'll for go the rules. It's a class with a set of RULES, period. The gentlemen who have given their time to make this class what it is have done a great job! I call them gentlemen for putting up with all this BS, it's the rules for the class plain and simple, if you want other manufacturers, contact them and complain, let them submit a part that fits the RULES. It's not run what ya brung, it's VTA.
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If they are all the same then why will the new ones be 2 laps off the pace?
Due to chasis set up and driving style would be my guess.
For those wanting an approved tekin:1)find out if they have someone following rctech and send requests.
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Due to chasis set up and driving style would be my guess.
For those wanting an approved tekin:1)find out if they have someone following rctech and send requests.
People with newer cars can't have winning setups?
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I don't understand all this, it's the_rules____ rules! It would be like showing up to a Nascar race with a Daytona Prototype and Nascar saying, well being as you already have this car, we'll for go the rules. It's a class with a set of RULES, period. The gentlemen who have given their time to make this class what it is have done a great job! I call them gentlemen for putting up with all this BS, it's the rules for the class plain and simple, if you want other manufacturers, contact them and complain, let them submit a part that fits the RULES. It's not run what ya brung, it's VTA.
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People with newer cars can't have winning setups?
I never said that...a new chasis can be set up bad or wrong as easily as an older one.
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I never said that...a new chasis can be set up bad or wrong as easily as an older one.
The inference many are making is that people with new or more expensive stuff aren't competitive... Therefore it should not be legal.
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I don't understand all this, it's the_rules____ rules! It would be like showing up to a Nascar race with a Daytona Prototype and Nascar saying, well being as you already have this car, we'll for go the rules. It's a class with a set of RULES, period. The gentlemen who have given their time to make this class what it is have done a great job! I call them gentlemen for putting up with all this BS, it's the rules for the class plain and simple, if you want other manufacturers, contact them and complain, let them submit a part that fits the RULES. It's not run what ya brung, it's VTA.
A more accurate comparison is showing up to a NASCAR race with the proper chassis and all of the right equipment but you have a Ford motor and only Chevy motors are legal.
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The inference many are making is that people with new or more expensive stuff aren't competitive... Therefore it should not be legal.
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In our area there which is MD, we run 21.5 with aFDR of 4.2 and we have fun.Cost is going to kill this class and the hobby. VTA started out 27 turn motor and 4 cell batt. and look where are now $$$$$ money money . It's time to wake up people ,pick alow cost system buy a motor and go have fun.No one is going to be on ESPN because they inVTA.
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A more accurate comparison is showing up to a NASCAR race with the proper chassis and all of the right equipment but you have a Ford motor and only Chevy motors are legal.
Why would you bother showing up with an illegal motor when the rules are clear? Why bother testing and then campaigning for approval of something that is against the rules?
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