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Old 07-19-2012, 09:17 PM   #226
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I know this subject has probably been beaten like a dead horse ...but im just curious with this timing issue of having to be dremeled out to reach 40 degress of timing on the positive side ......has anybody from the actual company explained what has happened here....can the motor even handle that much timing? is it blocked for a reason?...i tried to search for this answer but have come up empty handed. Also i know the first batch was a mistake but its been 2 months now and i just bought one from a place that i was watching and then ran out and restocked 3 times before i ordered mine and its still got the same issue.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:42 PM   #227
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I know this subject has probably been beaten like a dead horse ...but im just curious with this timing issue of having to be dremeled out to reach 40 degress of timing on the positive side ......has anybody from the actual company explained what has happened here....can the motor even handle that much timing? is it blocked for a reason?...i tried to search for this answer but have come up empty handed. Also i know the first batch was a mistake but its been 2 months now and i just bought one from a place that i was watching and then ran out and restocked 3 times before i ordered mine and its still got the same issue.
Yes this topic has received a Bobby Brown beating.

The first batch was correct. The issue was one of mis information hitting the interenet. From the Man himself, the motor by design has 30 degrees built into the motor, the max on the end bell is 20, by design.

Again it is not a issue, defect, problem, manufacturing mistake or any thing else anyone wants to call it. It is correct and has been from the every start.

So if you are looking for 40 Degrees of timing, set the end bell to 10, that would be 30 built into the motor, plus the 10 you add, will give you 40 degrees of timing.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:03 PM   #228
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Yes this topic has received a Bobby Brown beating.

The first batch was correct. The issue was one of mis information hitting the interenet. From the Man himself, the motor by design has 30 degrees built into the motor, the max on the end bell is 20, by design.

Again it is not a issue, defect, problem, manufacturing mistake or any thing else anyone wants to call it. It is correct and has been from the every start.

So if you are looking for 40 Degrees of timing, set the end bell to 10, that would be 30 built into the motor, plus the 10 you add, will give you 40 degrees of timing.
Thankyou ...now does that still mean that if i dremmel the part out i can have 70 degrees of timing and is it ok for the motor or is that why the design stops it from going there and the numbers that say 40 on the positve side are just a mistake?
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:27 PM   #229
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no both my motors go to 25 degrees positive 55 total second batch of motors.
I just ran TC blink tonight with the timing "maxed out" at 25 on a D3.5 17.5 I just received from Fantom with the HT rotor, it worked very well as opposed to 20 and slightly taller gearing. It reacted very well with the additional timing and didn't notice any fade (150F after 6 mins).
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:29 PM   #230
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Looking at the Rotors, is there much difference between the 12.5 broad powerband rotor and the 12.5 high torque? I beleive it comes shipped with the 12.3 broad powerband is that correct?
Will the 12.5 broad powerband provide more torque that the 12.3 High torque rotor? I am a little confused with all the high torque,high rpm broad powerband options.
Coming from an LRP motor where there are three options, 12, 12.5 and 13
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Looking at the Rotors, is there much difference between the 12.5 broad powerband rotor and the 12.5 high torque? I beleive it comes shipped with the 12.3 broad powerband is that correct?
Will the 12.5 broad powerband provide more torque that the 12.3 High torque rotor? I am a little confused with all the high torque,high rpm broad powerband options.
Coming from an LRP motor where there are three options, 12, 12.5 and 13
I've tried both the 12.5 BP and 12.5 HT rotor, and the difference that I observed was less drag on neutral throttle with the BP but then again I try to dial in positive throttle on the TX to remove as much drag effect as possible when running both.

HT has worked better for a more "technical" layout and the BP for a more "open" layout. They both spool up much faster at corner exit compared to the stock 12.3 BP rotor.
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:49 AM   #232
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Thankyou ...now does that still mean that if i dremmel the part out i can have 70 degrees of timing and is it ok for the motor or is that why the design stops it from going there and the numbers that say 40 on the positve side are just a mistake?
To why are the marking on the endbell to 40... I would answer with why does the the speedometer in my car go to 160 when the max the car will go is 118?

As far as "is it ok" to cut and turn up the timing more, I don't know, I have not done any cutting....
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:31 AM   #233
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http://midlandshybrid.com/2008112012...to-160mph.html
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:45 PM   #234
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I'm pretty sure it was a Rhetoric question. Plus lets all be honest they made modifications where I can max out a speedo.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:22 PM   #235
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I'm pretty sure it was a Rhetoric question. Plus lets all be honest they made modifications where I can max out a speedo.
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What a stupid article...

"Oh noes! Teh sp33do goes up to 160!!!11 Now everyone will tempt fate by traveling at the maximum rate of speed their car is capable of!!!111"
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What a stupid article...

"Oh noes! Teh sp33do goes up to 160!!!11 Now everyone will tempt fate by traveling at the maximum rate of speed their car is capable of!!!111"
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Obviously it is all to do with visual ergonomics.. the top is the first place you look when you glance down at your speedo, so around 70-80 mph has to be at the top.. and they still have half a gauge left.. they have to put something on it. We call that the 'dream side'.

And ehat has this got to do with a Duo....
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Obviously it is all to do with visual ergonomics.. the top is the first place you look when you glance down at your speedo, so around 70-80 mph has to be at the top.. and they still have half a gauge left.. they have to put something on it. We call that the 'dream side'.

And what has this got to do with a Duo....
The D3.5 doesn't allow adjustment to the far end of the scale (40). Most people report it can only go to 25 ish. So its a curiosity, as to who made the decision to design it this way and why, or is it merely a mistake.
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