EPIC 3800 cells
 

Picture is here

EPIC has developed its own cell for serious racers who need high performance at the best possible “wallet-friendly" pricing. High voltage output is perfect for all forms of modified racing and backyard bashing where run time is all important. High voltage output and low internal resistance.

Race Level — These cells/packs have super good run time and voltage. Ideal for the weekend club racer.
•EP0059 4 CELL MATCHED UNASSEMBLED EPIC 3800 ESP RACE MATCHED $56.99
•EP0060 4 CELL MATCHED SADDLE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP RACE MATCHED $66.99
•EP0061 4 CELL MATCHED SIDE X SIDE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP RACE MATCHED $66.99
•EP0062 6 CELL MATCHED UNASSEMBLED EPIC 3800 ESP RACE MATCHED $89.99
•EP0063 6 CELL MATCHED SADDLE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP RACE MATCHED $99.99
•EP0064 6 CELL MATCHED SIDE X SIDE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP RACE MATCHED $99.99
•EP0065 6 CELL MATCHED STICK MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP RACE MATCHED $99.99

Team Level — These cells/packs have the same run times as the race level packs but have the highest voltage available. The choice for serious racers!
•EP0066 4 CELL MATCHED UNASSEMBLED EPIC 3800 ESP TEAM MATCHED $66.99
•EP0067 4 CELL MATCHED SADDLE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP TEAM MATCHED $76.99
•EP0068 4 CELL MATCHED SIDE X SIDE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP TEAM MATCHED $76.99
•EP0069 6 CELL MATCHED UNASSEMBLED EPIC 3800 ESP TEAM MATCHED $99.99
•EP0070 6 CELL MATCHED SADDLE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP TEAM MATCHED $109.99
•EP0071 6 CELL MATCHED SIDE X SIDE MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP TEAM MATCHED $109.99
•EP0072 6 CELL MATCHED STICK MATCHED EPIC 3800 ESP TEAM MATCHED $109.99

Sport MATCHED
•EP0073 6 CELL STICK, ZAPPED EPIC 3800 ESP ZAPPED SPORT PACK 690776086430 $65.00

Power Bricks
•EP0074 24 Cells Untested, Zapped For Higher Volts EPIC 3800 ESP ZAPPED POWER BRICK $219.99
•EP0075 24 Cells Untested, Un-Zapped EPIC 3800 ESP POWER BRICK $199.99


These are suggested retail prices - actual selling price varies by dealer.

For more information about this and other Trinity products, visit the Trinity website

Is this for real or another Trinity trick. Get some 3700 change the wrap, change Mah and sell them?

Nick

This is either a Intellect cell (like LRP) or a GP3700...

No ground breaking innovation here imho ;-)

I think the GP's will be 3800's

:weird: i dont think tahts for real.....O_O watch...it might be like a intellect battery..O_O dun dun dun!!! but still...100 bucks?!?!? EWWWWWW i rather buy fukuyamas

So many people flip out when a new product is announced and they see the full retail prices. They will be available for much less than $100.

Trinity sets the retail price for its handwound mods at $95. Do they ever sell for that? No.

I'm sure these are just a different shrink, simular to the old zebra shrink wrap, and not a cell that is exclusive to Trinity, unless they're Sanyos.

I wonder if this is even for real, look at the pic, that's not a battery, just what could be a label for one.

This is Trinity reacting to us bringing in the IB3600. They don't even have a picture of a cell.

I ve just noticed it was a Photodhop work:lol:
They don't give dimensions too, so we don't know if those are GP or IB...hehe

The funny thing is GP's 3700's really cost $100 :lol:

Most likely :lol:

Also, where are the real numbers?? AvgV? IR? Run Time??

I've admitted I'm a pessimest, but seems almost like the old "Battery of the Week" wars have heated up again. But then again we've been lucky that the 3300's have been the cell of choice for what...almost 3-4 years now? I guess we're due for this to be happening anyways.

There will not be a new cell coming out that will obsolete the current cells. The cell technology is pretty much maxed except for the capacity which will keep getting better.

The majority of the races going on are not runtime oriented so extra capacity doesn't mean much.

Lets take the IB3600 vs GP3300. I feel the IB is real good and fast but it won't do much faster times than the GP3300.

The GP3700 vs GP3300 is a perfect example. At the Novak race Trinity had GP3700 cells in the 3300 shrink and we used GP3300 and Ralph Burch was able to win the mod class using 3300s. SO even in mod the difference isn't that much.


By having competition between cell manufacturers the racers will win because the prices will stay lower. GP has been increasing the price of their cell and now that IB has stepped in it will force GP to keep its price in check.

Are you sure the Trinity guys had 3700's in 3300 wrap? That's a fairly inflammatory statement Danny. I'm not arguing, I'm just asking.

Danny, you're saying that happened at this year's or last years Novak Race?

The thing that some people may not realize though is that while they may not use all the runtime, you need to look at the voltage throughout the entire discharge curve. For example, 2 packs, one labeled 1.180 @ 400 and another with 1.184 @ 385. While the 1.184 may look like the better pack, the 1.180 may have a higher average voltage over a 5 minute curve (I don't know if I explained that well or not). While I haven't really looked at them yet, I think this is the theory behind the Real Time packs from Reedy.

So while the cells with more than 3300MAH may not have voltage on the labels that looks as good as the current GP's, the "usuable" voltage could potentially be higher.

Cypress: Yes i'm sure. I will never say anything just to say it. The diameter of the GP3700 is bigger and the height is taller than the 3300. At the Novak race a Trinity driver lent a pack to another driver who couldn't get the pack to fit in his car.

Gary: I have been matching cells for 14 years and have been a activily involved in RC racing for 19 years. Your theory of usable voltage is good but in real ontrack performance the high average voltage cell will run better.

All our stk and 19t drivers are using higher average voltage cells with lower runtime. Our mod drivers use the higher runtime cells.

I am thankfull that there are people like Danny @ SMC to provide good packs with reliable numbers and not just another re-labeled product.

I watched said driver try to wedge said pack into his car. It did not fit. I also watched the batteries charge from about 3 ft. away. They were wrapped with trinity 3300 shrink.

Also they peaked at over 3900 mAh, which would seem kinda high for something you are willing to loan out.....

That is kinda what I was guessing, but at least they have their shrink wrap avalible for us to check out :rolleyes:

Oh look, Danny is the Big Jim Greenmeyer of batteries...Another Ass...... Gee Danny and we didnt see Josh at cleveland with Intellect cells...Remember the green cells he ran lmao.... Grow up!

partyman: Thanks for the kind words. Josh ran GP3300 at Cleveland.

partyman: I don't even know Danny personally, but I know that he's not an ass and wouldn't spout out info that is purely opinion based. He already said that the Intellect cells will run about the same times as a GP3300, so what's your point? :weird:

You're a Class Act Danny.

Thank you for helping the "racer"!

Dude, with the absolute baseless crap that comes out of Jim's mouth how you can call anyone that is waaaaay below the belt. If Danny were what you call him, he would be telling people that 2000's were still the best batteries out on the market and that came out afterwards were junk ala the MVP being the best stocker on the market.

With 3 posts, I'm sure everybody agrees he's prolly a cheap shot artist.

maybe these Epic 3800 are the new Intellect 3800?

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...threadid=62964

its not for real.......the pic is a pic of a stinkin label

i don't want to turn this into a flame thread. but what is wrong with big jim? just wondering...

I don't actually know Danny in person, but everything he has posted on this forum has been constructive and true. Why would someone argue with his reputation? Yeah, I run IB 3600 an GP 3300. Both cells charge way into the 3800-3900 range. But after I leave them on the equalizer tray for 12 hours. You must charge your batts from 5.4 volts. That is why your charger doesn't tell you 3900 mah

partyman, knock it off. I know where you posted from. :batman:

I'll give this thread a chance to turn around, but you guys need to quit the bashing.

Thanks to all of you who have supported me. I use these message boards to try and give some helpful insight on batteries and battery matching.

........

[be higher."

What you said earlier is absolutely true!! I have cycled hundreds of individual cells and assembled battery packs. During the discharge phase of the cycles I digitally record the voltage every 5 seconds. The voltage data is collected and uploaded to EXCEL for graphing and analyzing. The cell/battery with the highest average discharge voltage is not always the best, especially when taking into consideration noticeable differences in discharge time. Real testing with real data supports your thoughts. [/B][/QUOTE]


THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO TRY POWER PUSH VOLTAGE IS READ EVERY TEN SECONDS ON A REAL BATTERY MATCHER NOT MASSED PRODUCED MACHINE THAT HAS A STATED TOLLERENCE OF 8 PERCENT!:eek: