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Old 02-07-2005, 08:07 PM   #31
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a R/C magazine will never say a R/C car sucked.

If anyone is into computers, pick up maximun PC, If a product sucks they tell you, when they make mistakes they tell you.

Xtreme dont get me wrong, I love your rating system with the chicks, some arguments could be maid for giving one chick a 9 and another an 8, but still, good idea =)

BTW I know nikki and she was the best one you had yet
Comparing video games to RC cars is like birds to fish. There are some very very bad games out there that don't work, buggy and are in general the biggest pile of suck out there. You factor in that they all cost the same and when a game or program comes out it really sucks.

RC Cars on the other hand aren't jsut a program that can be mass produced it takes a lot of work and for the most part when they come out really aren't bad in any way. The price may reflect the level of quality, but for the price they are faster, stronger, and better than anything that has come out in years.

Maybe the problem is the current generation of "racers' don't remember when things actually took prep and modifications to get them to be good.
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Oh...you wrote that review? It must REALLY suck then

Sorry...with everyone bashing the magazines..I thought I had to contribute...

don't forget that the numbers are subjective and cars are rated in their class and to their market.

The Tamiya Wild Willy is the best little wheelie jeep kit on the market that I know of...so it should rate highly!

As a race car it would rate..on a scale of 1 to 10...about -372.8
And the light is seen. Most people think everything has to be a racecar. We forget the fun of jsut running. The WW2 made me remember that at one point. I never had soo much fun going 9mph and flipping over.
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And the light is seen. Most people think everything has to be a racecar. We forget the fun of jsut running. The WW2 made me remember that at one point. I never had soo much fun going 9mph and flipping over.
It's not nice to say the light has been seen...

I was just joking when I said Shane wrote the article so it must suck...

I actually really liked the review

You guys do a good job of letting it be known in your reviews the point of view that you are trying to look at the vehicles from. you back it up with facts and numbers allowing the reader to come to their own conclusions...

It's a large part of the reason I'm a subscriber
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:15 PM   #35
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Acualy i don't own the truck. I have built many for customers.(mad force) The writer built the truck wrong and blames the truck. That guy should have been fired.
I'm pretty sure we've been through this before. The steering rack was put on the wrong side of the tranny and in the end I think it was a better choice (not having the rack on the bottom of the truck ready to be ripped off) it in no way affected the performance of the truck. So I'm not sure why you are so bent on that minor detail. I built it and told the readers that after making the mistake I thought it was a better place to have the steering. So please fire me so I can stop the voices.
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I think the biggest problem is you don't publish your models phone numbers... I'd also like to disagree with some of your ratings on certain women.... But you guys did point out flaws in the TC4, it was actually the only part of your test I read... I'll get to it eventually, it's on the back of the bowl with the Playboy's.... Hehehehe.....
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Well I'll add some words to the lot.. I buy xtreme r/c magazine pretty much every month. I just like it the best. I used to get car action forever. I just like extreme better. Must be the chicks!! Not really. I think they speak their minds about the cars. Maybe you won't hear them say they suck, but so what. I buy my r/c's from what I read on forums, and see at the track. I read the mags just b/c I'm hooked on these little toys and I like to read about the new stuff. AE rules in my book. I'll prolly run a GT forever!!
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I think the biggest problem is you don't publish your models phone numbers... I'd also like to disagree with some of your ratings on certain women.... But you guys did point out flaws in the TC4, it was actually the only part of your test I read... I'll get to it eventually, it's on the back of the bowl with the Playboy's.... Hehehehe.....

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Old 02-07-2005, 08:35 PM   #39
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this is all I mean

Acceleration • Rating: 10
Top Speed • Rating: 10
Braking • Rating: 9
Low-Speed Handling • Rating: 8
High-Speed Handling • Rating: 8
Rough-Track Handling • Rating: 9
Tuning • Rating: 10
Damage • Rating: 8

To quote xtremes article:
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It’s difficult to say that Associated has hit a home run with the car, but they’ve come close.
Typicall of any review, lowest score is an 8, thats awsome, I cant remember ever seeing anything lower then a 6 in a magazine, ???

I actually have the very first issue of extreme, when i first read it some odd years ago, I was saying thank god a magazine that doesn't BS you like car action.

I can understand you have to be more politically correct now, but then again you show half naked women in a magazine kids read.

BTW you can benchmark an r/c car.
electric--you can get a dyno, for the motor make sure you run it simular + or - 5%
you test batteries and have a standard where the battery was at when you tested it

Run a simular gear ratio, have your own test track.

or course things are going to be your opinion, handling, tuning etc. but I honestly think if a rc car magazine modeled itself after Maximin PC it would be a better magazine.

example or rating in maximun pc-
random mag i pick up oct 2004

page 90
review of Microsoft S+ark
rating = 3
positives this mouse works for lefties and rightins
negatives = Uncomfortable design and over-sensitive buttons SUCK (yes they said a microsoft product strait out sucks in a published magazine)

the difference between the pc mag and rc mag is manufatures listen to the pc mag to make there products better, rc mags will not starit publish a article saying there product is bad.

nothing I said is meant as knock on the tc4 or extreme. I would buy a tc4 and I would buy xtreme, just saying articles are a bit biased because they pay tons for advertising, in order to keep the price for the consumer down.
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Comparing video games to RC cars is like birds to fish. There are some very very bad games out there that don't work, buggy and are in general the biggest pile of suck out there. You factor in that they all cost the same and when a game or program comes out it really sucks.

RC Cars on the other hand aren't jsut a program that can be mass produced it takes a lot of work and for the most part when they come out really aren't bad in any way. The price may reflect the level of quality, but for the price they are faster, stronger, and better than anything that has come out in years.

Maybe the problem is the current generation of "racers' don't remember when things actually took prep and modifications to get them to be good.
BINGO!

Alot of kids seem to want a MODEL to just fall together.

MODELS require work and fitting, plus a measure of skill and craftsmanship to get the best possible result.

Our R/C cars are MODELS, the Xray is like a snap-tight kit that is molded in the final colors...no effort.

The TC4 is like a solid color glue-together model that you have to ...GASP....build and paint for it to look nice.


Effort and modeling!?!? No way! Who would of thought those two go together!?!?!?

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International Federation of Model Auto Racing
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:42 PM   #41
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Comparing video games to RC cars is like birds to fish.
I'm not comparing the 2 just saying they don't BS you around.

why I would buy a tc4 and whats good about it.

parts are avalible
parts are cheap
car is a good price
Can be tuned to a competitive level
If I wanted to get someone into r/c this is what I would sell them to start off with, and if they wanted to race awsome...
AE instructions are absolutly the best, btw you gave those a 9 I think???

here's a good article
you can actually convert a tc3 to a tc4, without spending an arm and a leg, why not let people know how???

ohh that might piss AE off and they might not sell as many tc4's???

would I say she's a tc4
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You can? Why not list the parts and prices for me so I can see how much it would cost.

Should real car magazines tell you how much it would cost to change my 2004 350Z to the 2005 350Z with different engine parts? The review is of the car not how to "convert your TC3." You mixing things up again
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BINGO!

Alot of kids seem to want a MODEL to just fall together.

MODELS require work and fitting, plus a measure of skill and craftsmanship to get the best possible result.

Our R/C cars are MODELS, the Xray is like a snap-tight kit that is molded in the final colors...no effort.

The TC4 is like a solid color glue-together model that you have to ...GASP....build and paint for it to look nice.


Effort and modeling!?!? No way! Who would of thought those two go together!?!?!?

Remember kids...IFMAR means:

International Federation of Model Auto Racing
I guess you'd be happy with a block of plastic and some whittling tools?

Falling together is good. Having to shim is okay. Altering parts isn't.
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You can? Why not list the parts and prices for me so I can see how much it would cost.

Should real car magazines tell you how much it would cost to change my 2004 350Z to the 2005 350Z with different engine parts? The review is of the car not how to "convert your TC3." You mixing things up again
sorry that part of the post was off topic, it was just an idea,
btw,
graphite conversion kit, roughly 50 bucks discounted
shafts and dog bones are the same size, just different thicknesses,
change the steering rack, and I think one tie rod or 2 and your pretty much there.
bearing are the same diffs are the same, there a few more parts, but it can be done for less then the price of buying a tc4.

this whole response is off topic

I'd be glad to write the article for you guys if your interested??

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Acceleration • Rating: 10
Top Speed • Rating: 10
Braking • Rating: 9
Low-Speed Handling • Rating: 8
High-Speed Handling • Rating: 8
Rough-Track Handling • Rating: 9
Tuning • Rating: 10
Damage • Rating: 8

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Typicall of any review, lowest score is an 8, thats awsome, I cant remember ever seeing anything lower then a 6 in a magazine, ???

I actually have the very first issue of extreme, when i first read it some odd years ago, I was saying thank god a magazine that doesn't BS you like car action.

I can understand you have to be more politically correct now, but then again you show half naked women in a magazine kids read.

BTW you can benchmark an r/c car.
electric--you can get a dyno, for the motor make sure you run it simular + or - 5%
you test batteries and have a standard where the battery was at when you tested it

Run a simular gear ratio, have your own test track.

or course things are going to be your opinion, handling, tuning etc. but I honestly think if a rc car magazine modeled itself after Maximin PC it would be a better magazine.

example or rating in maximun pc-
random mag i pick up oct 2004

page 90
review of Microsoft S+ark
rating = 3
positives this mouse works for lefties and rightins
negatives = Uncomfortable design and over-sensitive buttons SUCK (yes they said a microsoft product strait out sucks in a published magazine)

the difference between the pc mag and rc mag is manufatures listen to the pc mag to make there products better, rc mags will not starit publish a article saying there product is bad.

nothing I said is meant as knock on the tc4 or extreme. I would buy a tc4 and I would buy xtreme, just saying articles are a bit biased because they pay tons for advertising, in order to keep the price for the consumer down.
What are you comparing the numbers with? Are you saying that the TC4 should have gotten a 1? For what. Your examples don't make sense. If you could provide a review where WE (I can list those for other magazines) said something was a 10 and it was a 6 your arguement would float. But saying that crappy mice and software makes the PC industry better doesn't...why because there's still crap being sold.
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