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Old 03-10-2013, 06:37 PM
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I am building a kit and havene no experience, any answers will be appreciated. First i plan on running rubber tyre where should i set the rear axel, i put the 3 adjuster making the car the lowest. Second question is the spur gear, the car comes with a 93 is that what most people run?
The "S3" is stamped 2 which will give you the lowest chasis height. (The S is the parts tree that the 0, 1, and 2 are on).

We race on carpet and there is a wide range of spurs from 72 to 100+.
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I'm looking at getting into F1. How does the F104 X1 compare to the F104 ver 2? Is the X1 still competitive with the Ver 2?
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I'm looking at getting into F1. How does the F104 X1 compare to the F104 ver 2? Is the X1 still competitive with the Ver 2?
Depends...

From what I've seen the v2 has an advantage on asphalt.

On carpet they are close...
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Need a bit of setup help with my V2. I'm running a low grip bumpy asphalt track and I'm basically searching for more rear end stability on power. When I come out of a low speed corner the car is looping the rear end no matter how gentle I am with the throttle. It's almost like the car is getting locked in a turn and just keeps going once the wheels are straight. Yet once I'm out of the corner I can be more aggressive with the throttle and the car will track correctly

My current setup is:

Rear ride height - 5 mm
Pod droop - 3mm
side springs - pink
TC Rear Shock - 25wt. and gold (mini) spring
Rear tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)
Diff slips for 1-2ft from stand still

Front ride height - 5.5 mm
Gold springs
2 deg camber
front axels in the offset position
Front tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)

Using a Shorty pack
Battery all the way forward, electronics behind battery

Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by whitrzac View Post
Depends...

From what I've seen the v2 has an advantage on asphalt.

On carpet they are close...


The local track that I would race it on is carpet. So I'm leaning toward a X1 and if I like F1 I can always grab a Ver 2.
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What is the best way to eliminate "Torque Steer" when coming out of a corner? Sometimes the car will steer right sometimes left, never predictable. I have softened the punch of the ESC as much as I can. It sounds and feels like the diff is slipping and then grabbing and jerking the car. Suggestions?

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Originally Posted by Csaari77 View Post
Need a bit of setup help with my V2. I'm running a low grip bumpy asphalt track and I'm basically searching for more rear end stability on power. When I come out of a low speed corner the car is looping the rear end no matter how gentle I am with the throttle. It's almost like the car is getting locked in a turn and just keeps going once the wheels are straight. Yet once I'm out of the corner I can be more aggressive with the throttle and the car will track correctly

My current setup is:

Rear ride height - 5 mm
Pod droop - 3mm
side springs - pink
TC Rear Shock - 25wt. and gold (mini) spring
Rear tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)
Diff slips for 1-2ft from stand still

Front ride height - 5.5 mm
Gold springs
2 deg camber
front axels in the offset position
Front tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)

Using a Shorty pack
Battery all the way forward, electronics behind battery

Thanks for the help!
How much front droop? Because it sounds like you don't have any weight transfer to the rear.

Also I would move the battery back and moving the RX all the way in front.
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How much front droop? Because it sounds like you don't have any weight transfer to the rear.

Also I would move the battery back and moving the RX all the way in front.
1.5mm spacer under the screw in the front.
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Originally Posted by Csaari77 View Post
Need a bit of setup help with my V2. I'm running a low grip bumpy asphalt track and I'm basically searching for more rear end stability on power. When I come out of a low speed corner the car is looping the rear end no matter how gentle I am with the throttle. It's almost like the car is getting locked in a turn and just keeps going once the wheels are straight. Yet once I'm out of the corner I can be more aggressive with the throttle and the car will track correctly

My current setup is:

Rear ride height - 5 mm
Pod droop - 3mm
side springs - pink
TC Rear Shock - 25wt. and gold (mini) spring
Rear tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)
Diff slips for 1-2ft from stand still

Front ride height - 5.5 mm
Gold springs
2 deg camber
front axels in the offset position
Front tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)

Using a Shorty pack
Battery all the way forward, electronics behind battery

Thanks for the help!
There are a few things I can think of that may help.
- Run the steel axle over the carbon
- Run some dampening fluid on the front pins. 60k seems to work well.
- Put the battery in the rear of the car. I know it reduces the weight transfer, but it creates more static weight.
- Run heavier shock fluid in the center. I would go to at least 45 or 50 with a 3 hole 1.2mm piston

Use this to start and see what happens.
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What is the best way to eliminate "Torque Steer" when coming out of a corner? Sometimes the car will steer right sometimes left, never predictable. I have softened the punch of the ESC as much as I can. It sounds and feels like the diff is slipping and then grabbing and jerking the car. Suggestions?

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TRF Shock with 30 weight. Red CRC side springs.
Have you tweaked the car?
Have you made sure the links and "football" pivot have been set correctly? They should allow the pod to easily and smoothly move in all directions. You must remove the motor mount and spring perch cross brace to test this.
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Originally Posted by Csaari77 View Post
Need a bit of setup help with my V2. I'm running a low grip bumpy asphalt track and I'm basically searching for more rear end stability on power. When I come out of a low speed corner the car is looping the rear end no matter how gentle I am with the throttle. It's almost like the car is getting locked in a turn and just keeps going once the wheels are straight. Yet once I'm out of the corner I can be more aggressive with the throttle and the car will track correctly

My current setup is:

Rear ride height - 5 mm
Pod droop - 3mm
side springs - pink
TC Rear Shock - 25wt. and gold (mini) spring
Rear tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)
Diff slips for 1-2ft from stand still

Front ride height - 5.5 mm
Gold springs
2 deg camber
front axels in the offset position
Front tires - Tamiya TCS (rebadged Pits)

Using a Shorty pack
Battery all the way forward, electronics behind battery

Thanks for the help!

As it was mentioned battery back....

Preload the springs a turn to start, more preload will stabilize the car

Lower the rear ride height as much as you can, understanding it's a bumpy track

raise the pod side of the shock, a least 1mm, and don't be afraid to add more

what are you using in the side damper?
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What is the best way to eliminate "Torque Steer" when coming out of a corner? Sometimes the car will steer right sometimes left, never predictable. I have softened the punch of the ESC as much as I can. It sounds and feels like the diff is slipping and then grabbing and jerking the car. Suggestions?
Do you have any preload on the side springs? Easy to overlook, I had similar problems with my CRC 1/12th and thought I had a problem with my servo. Changed it for a new one and the same. Discovered that when dialling out tweak I had compressed both springs slightly so when the chassis centred out of a corner the springs worked against each other to upset the chassis.

Adjust the springs so they are only just touching the rear plate and when you adjust for tweak you wind one out when you wind the other in to make sure you don't put any spring pressure on the plate when centred.
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