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Old 02-04-2005, 11:42 AM   #16
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A friend has both the TT and the TL, and he prefers the TL due to its being MUCH more durable than the TT.

Granted he may not be the best driver, but after watching him curse and swear at the TT last week...
That surprises me ..we find the TT drivetrain mush less troublesome than the TL.
Either way, it appears that can motor racing is far from dead. Glad to hear it !!
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:43 AM   #17
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That surprises me ..we find the TT drivetrain mush less troublesome than the TL.
Either way, it appears that can motor racing is far from dead. Glad to hear it !!
The only thing I don't like about the TT driveline is all the plastic driveshafts and cups. I guess they'd be ok for Mabuchi racing, but anything faster and I smell trouble...But at least you can run something besides stick packs in the TT
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:28 PM   #19
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Here in New Zealand we have always run a silver can class. In fact it is our stock class and at a big meeting like the nationals this class in whatever form of racing Touring cars, offroad etc is always the most popular. Because we have run it so long I guess you can say the guys here have learned alot of tricks. Loke the gearing they run. They basically get the smallest spur they can buy and the largest pinion. Something like a 88 spur to a 55 tooth pinion.
Also because of some cheating that has happened over the years we have a rule about the amount of current the motor can draw when tested. If it draws to much current you are disqualified. The other thing is that the cars are limited to 1400mah batteries unmatched. They are also limited to using rubber tires. (we run foam tires in the other classes here.)
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:02 PM   #20
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At our track I race a tt-01 with silver can, its any tamiya chassis with a silver 540 can and my car is pretty decent but its hard to keep up with 415's and gp3300's wiht hi-tec chargers etc.
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:54 PM   #21
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This really sounds like a good idea. Sounds a lot like some of the projects I got back in high school physics. We made mousetrap cars for distance, speed, and then electric racers for speed. The idea was to get the most out of a relatively weak power source. You were issued the mousetrap or electric motor and couldn't modify either.

How about a class where both the motor and power packs are specified (like only 2000mAh packs, NiCd or NiMH allowed)? In that kind of competition it isn't about how much money you can put into your car. It's how well you know your car and how well you can drive it.
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That is what we started with. The Tamiya series has evolved to CATCH up to what the mainstream is here in the states. I personly love this class. It has so much more to do with momentum, and car setup, and driving line, then who gets lucky, or who can spend the most money for a "blueprinted" motor. The great equilizer, TAMIYA SILVERCAN MOTORS!!!!
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That is what we started with. The Tamiya series has evolved to CATCH up to what the mainstream is here in the states. I personly love this class. It has so much more to do with momentum, and car setup, and driving line, then who gets lucky, or who can spend the most money for a "blueprinted" motor. The great equilizer, TAMIYA SILVERCAN MOTORS!!!!
Can't agree more, my TB02 is actually beating dialed xrays and TC3's, our rules are posted below

http://www.actmcrc.org.au/rules.htm

this si our most popular class, with a spin off TSD where the cheap tamiya shaft drives TL, TT and TB 01's are compeititve

We'd get at least an A and a B final in 540 and always a full TSD final, basically we made one for budget racers and one for those with a bit more money but without having to have the greatest batteries
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compared to what turn motor do the closed end 540's usually perform like?

also, has anyone raced a spec class where you use the same car, motor, batterys, tires etc? i know trinity started one with the t-spec, but i never heard much about it other than what i read in some magazines.
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compared to what turn motor do the closed end 540's usually perform like?

also, has anyone raced a spec class where you use the same car, motor, batterys, tires etc? i know trinity started one with the t-spec, but i never heard much about it other than what i read in some magazines.
ACTMCTC had one with a TL01 class, where the first 8 drivers to turn up on the night raced .

it was using chrome 540's, TL01 chassis and rubber tyres, the batteries were left yp to the racer but they were generally nicads

at the end of 5mins racing you could literally throw a blanket over the first 4-5 cars at the finish line, it was good close racing, although not very clean, many crashes but everyone waited around for them to catch up
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We have run stock classes with sealed endbell motors for some years. We started off with the 540 Johnson but after finding availability problems now use a 21 turn Corally sealed endbell motor. It is quick, reliable and cheap.

I have discussed with officials from clubs in other countries that run rebuildable stock classes and they tell me the classes are nothing but trouble because there is so much cheating.

If you give a guy a motor he can open easily, and show him a choice of armatures, you can bet your bottom dollar that sooner or later he is going to try a "quicker" armature. We're all human after all. And please don't tell me about armature ends being different and recognisable. How many times are all the cars scrutineered that closely? Some do get caught on occasion but scrutineering these motors is a nightmare. At the recent Snowbirds the scrutineer said he found 5 "bent" motors. No disrespect to the poor overworked official, but how many more did he miss?

At the moment we also run a 23 turn rebuildable stock motor class. All you hear is people complaining that such and such was running a19 turn arm etc.I know guys that have put 15 turn arms in 21 turn sealed motors, and that's no easy job, just imagine what they would do with a motor they can open with just 2 screws.

Therefore if every motor could be teched after every single race, then rebuildable motors would be OK, but until such time, the only realistic way to run an equal motor class is with sealed motors, preferably hand out.

In a perfect world rebuildable motors would be OK, but unfortunately our World is far from being perfect.
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Old 02-22-2005, 08:55 PM   #27
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i got a traxxas stinger in the mail today...ive had some in the past, but damn, i never noticed how weak the magnets are on this motor....weak magnets=low torque, right? or is it low rpm? or maybe both?
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