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Old 04-16-2012, 09:25 AM   #16
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I've used Fm radios from day one, and the antenna length was the only issue in certain tracks with low canopy... I have a specktrum but I have not used it yet. The only thing I realized is that most racers don't use a capacitor on their receivers, and don't sand the tips of their transmitters batteries at all !!! In consequence, they loose control and blame the equipment ......
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If you are considering getting an M11X, check out the MT-4. Same response times as the the m11x, but smaller and lighter. Cheaper too. It doesn't have a drop down wheel or backlight on the LCD though. It's a great radio. Similar to a dx3r in size and weight but the wheel and trigger feel is much nicer. It also does telemetry.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:49 AM   #18
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I tried a high end fm set because it was cheaper than getting a basic 2.4 and loved it way more than my spektrum. It felt to have a lower latency and had higher response.
Interesting... I ask because I have been using a Futaba 3PJS(top-o-the-line back in 99 lol) converted to 2.4ghz. And when I drive buddies cars using a newer 2.4 radio I feel a bit more connected to the car. Like it is responding more quickly to my inputs.

I thought it was in my head for the longest time, until a month ago. A friend and I both drive Top Rebel 12s, and they are setup virtually identically... However, he is using a Futaba 4PKS while I still have my old POS. He wanted some input on his car setup, so he had me take it for a spin. I was up on the stand anyway, since I had just taken my car out. Driving two basically identical cars, back-to-back, but with different radios.... was... well, eye opening. I felt much more comfortable with his radio. Everything seemed to respond quicker. And not "too quickly", but just right. It was as if everything was happening exactly when I wanted it to. With my car and old radio, I always felt like I had to anticipate things and plan for them, instead of just reacting.

Anyway, Im rambling. And this is off-topic anyway. But I find it very interesting that some people prefer FM over 2.4g due to response time, etc.
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Exactly. It's hard to explain but with the first gen 2.4 stuff, my once excellent driving became very inconsistent. I was making far more mistakes and breaking a lot more stuff. This went on for a full season before I switched back to an FM M8 and my mad skills mysteriously returned overnight. The next season I was given an FM M11 and I got even better. It was just so much more precise than anything 2.4. From what I hear, newer systems have gotten MUCH better but I still just don't trust them. It's not glitches or problems I am concerned about, it's feel and response.

Someone mentioned FM receivers not lasting. Well, I'm still using the receiver that came with my M8 in 1999. After years of nitro use, I did start getting an odd minor glitch with it so I decommissioned it for a while. Then I picked up a WGT car and needed a receiver so I took it apart, sprayed off 10 years worth of nitro grime from it (it was REALLY NASTY), put it in and have run 2 races with it trouble free. Even tq'ed WGT at the MRH season finally last week. Plus I can still find new ones from time to time very cheap.
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I never stopped using 27MHz FM. The only real problem is people complaining about the antenna. Although sometimes newbies with old gear turn up and because nobody is checking a frequency board and is just turning their radio on in the pits they think they can too. So, you have to be mindful of new people.

I was at a National Title 2 weeks ago, and someone in the next field had a toy RC car with a frequency radio. The Race Director had to run 100 m to talk to them before we could start the race. Everyone was waiting because of me basically. People were slightly annoyed until I pointed out that they didn't want me to glitch right into the side of them.

This type of thing is pretty rare though. Most of the time I yell out a frequency, look at the stand, don't see any antennas and then switch the car on.
I feel ya' still running a FM M8 and the whining and moaning about the antennae get's old . I guess if I make the leap it will be to a MT-4, with the current special they are running on them. I do like the old M8 with 27fm though, just feels "right", nothing artificial about it. I tried Spektrum when it first came out on the radio and the feel was horrible.
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Still using a KO helios comp. I have NEVER had a KO FM receiver fail in over 15 years of using their products.

That being said, I have driven my friend's car with a 2.4 KO Eurus, and it feels quicker.
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I am running the Futaba 3PB PCM on my old Losi JRX2's, I wanted to run it on one of my drift cars as I have an extra receiver but for some reason it will not work with Tekin RS Pro, I kept trying to set it up and it wont work, so I switch back to the 4PKS and everything work fine.

Is there a fix for this? Can you make the old 75 MHz run with newer brushless ESC and Motors.
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I use a $100 Airtronics MX Sport 2.4ghz on all my vehicles on and off road, 8 in total, and have never had a problem in the 3 years I've used it... so there.

On a side note, I've nearly lost an eye from people's FM antennas more than once.
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LOL i am running my JR fm synth no thanks on converting don't wanna buy that many receivers
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I use a $100 Airtronics MX Sport 2.4ghz on all my vehicles on and off road, 8 in total, and have never had a problem in the 3 years I've used it... so there.

On a side note, I've nearly lost an eye from people's FM antennas more than once.
I only wave it towards another racers eyeball if he's a real hacker
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So, does anybody know why the 75mhz radio will not work with newew brushless ESC, or is it just the Tekin's?
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Those who have a problem with fm antennas should stop trying to kiss other racers on the stand ! It's a driverstand, not a make up stand !!!!! Stay away or lose an eye....
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So, does anybody know why the 75mhz radio will not work with newew brushless ESC, or is it just the Tekin's?
I run Tekins and they work fine with all my airtronics FM stuff.
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I run Tekins and they work fine with all my airtronics FM stuff.
Same for me with Tekin and KO........
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I wonder if it has something to do with PCM mode
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