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Old 02-01-2005, 07:01 AM   #16
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Do you have a link to that CS Cole?....

i've seent he Keyence Rapida in one of the local racer's cars and it is a sweet ESC. I've also heard good things about the new KO units.

The GTX I look at as a huge marketing FARCE...Novak puts a cute little outline on the box and advertises tellign you just how small and lightweight the ESC is and then mandates that the HUGE capacitor must be used(seriously.the Cap is nearly the same size as the ESC)...false advertising if you ask me...if it is required for operating theunit, then it should be accounted for in the documentaion discussing physical size

I'm currently running a LRP Quantum in my 12th scale, QC2 in one of my TC's, GT7 in the other (never realised how huge it was until I tried to install it) a Cyclone in my F1, and I have a GM SX9 that I use as a backup....

All of them get the job dne admirably...of the ones I run though i'd have to give the nod to LRP based on size and ease of use
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:45 AM   #17
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As I have said in my other posts I am new to this hobby but just my two cents I was reading the results from the Cleveland Indoor Champs and Eli Ezrow won the Touring Masters class with a Keyence ESC. I would think that is a pretty big race considering the names that were in the mod classes. (Cyrul, Moore, Blackstock, Baker, etc..) The Keyence is one of my choices for my 1/12 Corally SP12M. I just hope it isnt too big can anyone help me on thin one.

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Old 02-01-2005, 07:46 AM   #18
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I have the Rocket max as a backup now, it really is an amazing ESC, I still haven't seen anyone else with it though. Maybe it's just not popular in the US
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:03 AM   #19
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You really could do with getting a clue.
Tekin ESC's randomly pack up just as much as the next brand, it's just fortunate that they're open for business again and owners aren't reliant on a private third party to fix them anymore.

For all you know, Keyence speedo's could be winning races all throughout the world...I doubt you'd notice with those enormous blinkers, tunnel vision and rose tinted glasses.

Get a clue? I'll admit that today's speedos are light, small and are extremely smooth, but that's where it ends. They just don't have a very powerful feel to them like the G-9. If you throw more than 6 or 7 cells or a really hot motor at today's ESCs you'll more than likely toast them. They just can't take the power that I put through them. Of course the G-9 doesn't offer many adjustments, but the last time I checked all you need in racing is throttle and brake. If you can regulate those 2 things with your finger you don't need any more adjustments. Most guys are too wrapped up in how many adjustments they can make with their speedo and think it can make up for being a crappy driver. Wake Up!!!
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Get a clue? I'll admit that today's speedos are light, small and are extremely smooth, but that's where it ends. They just don't have a very powerful feel to them like the G-9. If you throw more than 6 or 7 cells or a really hot motor at today's ESCs you'll more than likely toast them. They just can't take the power that I put through them. Of course the G-9 doesn't offer many adjustments, but the last time I checked all you need in racing is throttle and brake. If you can regulate those 2 things with your finger you don't need any more adjustments. Most guys are too wrapped up in how many adjustments they can make with their speedo and think it can make up for being a crappy driver. Wake Up!!!
I raced when tekin was still making BC 100L chargers, there products are bullet proof I will admit that, but No where near as smooth as today's products. I used to use the 411G2 speedos and it never compared to my Old original LRP speedos as far as smoothness etc...

I'm not a crappy driver, but I do like those adjustments and if you want that punchiness you get outta your tekin on a newer one, just read the manual on any of the adjustable speedos and you can get it.
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I am liking my Mtroniks Cirrus ESC. So far it is running well for me.

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I raced when tekin was still making BC 100L chargers, there products are bullet proof I will admit that, but No where near as smooth as today's products. I used to use the 411G2 speedos and it never compared to my Old original LRP speedos as far as smoothness etc...

I'm not a crappy driver, but I do like those adjustments and if you want that punchiness you get outta your tekin on a newer one, just read the manual on any of the adjustable speedos and you can get it.
That's what I'm trying to get at. The older Tekin speedos are "nearly" bulletproof, but like you said not as smooth as the newer ones. That's what I like about them, that raw power and punch that you just don't find nowadays. I grew up in r/c using the older ones and I guess just got used to them. My G-9 (U10) is probably 9-10 years old and I'm sure it'll run another 10 years easily. Good luck with the new micro midget speedos. Later!
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:18 AM   #23
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I do love Tekin too. The best is my old 410K with the keypad. I have had this thing for like 11 years now. Anyone else have one still?
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Get a clue? I'll admit that today's speedos are light, small and are extremely smooth, but that's where it ends. They just don't have a very powerful feel to them like the G-9. If you throw more than 6 or 7 cells or a really hot motor at today's ESCs you'll more than likely toast them. They just can't take the power that I put through them. Of course the G-9 doesn't offer many adjustments, but the last time I checked all you need in racing is throttle and brake. If you can regulate those 2 things with your finger you don't need any more adjustments. Most guys are too wrapped up in how many adjustments they can make with their speedo and think it can make up for being a crappy driver. Wake Up!!!
If you run a car big enough to fit a G9 in, and you can afford the HUGE , weight penalty for running one, it would be a fine speedo for Stock Touring car. If you run it in any Mod On-Road class, you'll more than likely dump. It's an excellent speedo for Stadium Trucks and 4wd buggies too.

I wish everyone would quit whining about the cap on the GTX. Give me a break!!! You need to run a cap just as big on an LRP QC2 or Futaba MC800, IF you want it to be efficient. Same with the GM speedos. The cool thing about Novak is that they include the Cap in the box, rather than selling a $25 "Worlds Upgrade kit" like LRP does.

And as far as Keyence winning a major race...... How about the two most heavily attended races in the US!!! The Snowbirds and The US Indoor Champs.

If you wanna run a Tekin get a G-10+, it's a nice speedo. It weighs a bunch more than the GTX and won't fit in my Pro 4 or my Rev.4 though, so I'll just stick with the GTX. Plus NOBODY can even compare to Novak when it comes to Customer Service.

I've been doing this for almost 20 years, and Novak has been king for [email protected] near all of them.
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:09 AM   #25
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what do you guys think of the hara twister???

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We'll since Keyence is a pretty huge company that specializes in high end medical equipment and laser technology.....many of which devices have been invented by them, and that they have locations in litteraly dozens of countrys.....I wouldn't expect to see as much importance placed on R/C car driver sponsorships,when compared to most of the other companys out there that "only" make products for the R/C industry........
Its the "only" making products for the r/c industry that makes the "only" r/c companys so good like they specialise in r/c cars and they got dedicated team drivers to give feedback to help develop their ESC's to be better.
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Lrp Quantum 1 and the KO VFS 2000 are amazing

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what do you guys think of the hara twister???

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Reading some of the opinions, it must be crap

However, it did win 2 IFMAR titles so that should improve its standings in some people's opinions

Seriously, it looks really nice and if I was in the market for a new speedo, I'd definitely look into that one...besides, Tamiya and that seems to go hand-in-hand Especially seeing Tamiya just released its "own" high-end speedo that looks suspiciously like the Twister and the KO
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Hey pro max.........your analogy couldn't be further from the truth especially with high tech electronics........
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That's what I'm trying to get at. The older Tekin speedos are "nearly" bulletproof, but like you said not as smooth as the newer ones. That's what I like about them, that raw power and punch that you just don't find nowadays. I grew up in r/c using the older ones and I guess just got used to them. My G-9 (U10) is probably 9-10 years old and I'm sure it'll run another 10 years easily. Good luck with the new micro midget speedos. Later!
yea, i ran a g-9 for 6yrs. until i shut off during a heat/circuit board failure. some factory ae drivers hooked me up with an lrp and brought me to the light. yes tekin seem to have more punch, but that because they were not as smooth.

as a matter of fact, before lrp, i ran tekin since the 600 model (back in 1989, it think) and yes they were good in there time but you cant compare them to todays speedos. and as reliability running hot mods it cant possibly conpare to todays standard,

my 2 cents from experiance
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