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Old 09-27-2005, 10:07 AM   #3766
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Hi,

It's very tempting..........to bad you live half way around the world.

what happened the red bulkheads??????? did you strip them??????

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Anyone want to get the best shocks possible for the X-ray .... do yourselves all a favour and buy the new Serpent shocks (U need 2 sets rears 903165). They fit directly on and are the smoothest best working shocks I have ever seen. It took me exactly 4mins to fill with oil and assemble 4 shocks with no air bubbles and exactly the same rebound. They are just awesome.
Are these the rumored new shocks for the XRay?
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The following is a copy/paste from the X-Ray forum. I thought it might be a nice addition to the thread at this point, as the shock building/maintnence on these cars seem to be one of the few sources of concern, questions, or frustration.

What periodic maintenance should I perform on my shocks?

The most important maintenance tasks for keeping consistent shock performance is refilling and bleeding them correctly. Replacing warped/hard rubber bladders and o-rings, scarred piston rods, or shaved/split/loose composite upper and lower ball joints is essential as well.

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It is recommended that the shocks be refilled and bled every two to four race days. However, the shocks may fill with small amounts of air during a hard crash where too much stress is applied to the sides of the shock body and top pivot mount. Before each race day, make sure you take the spring off of each shock, hold it up to your ear, and quickly compress the shock rod fully into the body while listening for any air making a "whistling" or "squishy" sound as it passes through the piston holes. If you hear any air, refill and bleed your shocks.
If building or pairing new shocks, always make sure they are the same length first with a shock length measuring tool. If one is longer than the other, adjust the thread of the lower ball joint on the shock rods to match them up to the same desired length.
If installing new rubber bladders, carefully trim the thin excess rubber from the edges of their lips

Shock refill and bleeding process:

1. Unscrew the top aluminum shock cap nut and remove the entire top assembly, including the composite top pivot mount, rubber bladder and foam insert if using them
2. Drain the oil from the shock body
3. Unscrew the end cap from the bottom of the shock body. It is important to dislodge the purple o-ring from the end cap in order to make sure the rod and piston is not pushed back into the shock body when you push down and screw back on the end cap in the bleeding process below. If the purple o-ring is stuck in the end cap, then cover it with shock oil, screw back on the end cap and remove it again. The purple o-ring should dislodge itself, but you might have to do this two or three times to get it out of the end cap.
4. Clean all of the shock parts thoroughly with electric motor cleaner. Make sure you only use a cleaner that DOES NOT leave a residue.

For adjustable pistons, open all four piston holes
With the end cap resting at the bottom of the rod on the composite lower ball joint, fill up the shock body with cleaner and pump the cleaner through the piston holes three or four times by pushing in and pulling out the rod.
Dry all of the parts thoroughly. Using compressed air will ensure all parts are completely dry, but do not use it on the bladder or let the piston bounce up and down when blowing the air into the shock body.

5. Completely cover both the purple and black o rings with shock oil and screw on the end cap
6. Make sure all four holes are open and the piston/rod is at the bottom of the body
7. Fill the shock body one millimeter below the brim with shock oil
8. Air bubble removal

Pump the piston once, no more than half way up and all the way back down. Do not let it come close to the surface of the oil.
Wait 2 seconds
If using the adjustable pistons, close and reopen all three holes to let out little air bubbles caught in between the two parts of the adjustable piston
Rotate the piston 1/4 turn. For adjustable pistons, push the piston up a little so its tab does not catch on the bottom of the shock body before rotating it.
Repeat this process 8 or more times

9. Fill the shock body all the way to the brim with shock oil
10. Prepare the top assembly to be installed as one piece

Place the top aluminum shock cap nut onto the composite top pivot mount with the tab on the pivot mount seated in the notch on the cap nut.
Hold the pivot mount and cap nut assembly upside down, being careful to keep the tab seated in the notch
If using foam inserts, place the insert into the recessed hole on the bottom end of the pivot mount
Place the bladder on the end of the pivot mount and use a thin, but not sharp, tool to gently press the edges of the bladders lip all the way down in between the sides of the cap nut and the pivot mount. The cap nuts threads and bladder lip should hold the entire assembly together, including the seated tab/notch, once you turn the top pivot mount final assembly back upright.

11. Top assembly installation

Hold the shock body with one hand and with the other hand, carefully place the top pivot mount final assembly on top of the body (some oil will overflow) and be careful to keep the assembly from lifting back up
While keeping the assembly as flat as possible with pressure, twist the cap nut counter clockwise until you feel the threads click and see the assembly flatten out. The threads should now be lined up correctly.
Twist the cap nut clockwise with a light force until it is almost fully screwed onto the shock body. If the cap seems to tighten quickly after one or two full turns, then it is crooked and the threads were not aligned correctly. Twist the cap nut back off a few whole turns until you feel the threads click and try again until the cap nut threads all the way on correctly.
Once the cap nut has been tightened most of the way down without becoming misaligned, use more force to tighten it down onto the body firmly. It is important not to tighten the top assembly down too much. If you do, the lip of the rubber bladder will be compressed too much and it will not be able to absorb the stress between the top pivot mount and the shock body during a hard crash, which may result in air leaking into the shock. However, if the cap nut is not tightened enough, it may unscrew itself when you try to adjust the ride height using the threaded spring collars. One full turn more of the cap nut than when you first feel the pressure from the rubber lip starting to compress should be correct.

12. Bottom end cap bleeding

For adjustable pistons, make sure all four piston holes are open
Turn the shock upside down
Push the piston in as far as it will go (the pressure may not let it go in that far) and hold it there for two seconds
Let the piston rebound by itself all the way out. For adjustable pistons, you may need to twist the rod a little for the piston tab to seat itself into one of the notches in the bottom of the shock body and it will rebound out approximately one more millimeter.
Let the piston sit for a few minutes to let any remaining air rise up to the bottom of the shock body in preparation for it to be bled out through the rod hole on the bottom of the shock
Measure the distance in millimeters from the threaded aluminum ride height adjustment collar to the beginning of the threads on the end of the shock rod
Unscrew end cap and let the oil and any remaining air bubbles bleed out until the shock rod recesses into the shock body 2 to 5 millimeters exactly. The more you allow the rod to recess, the less rebound pressure your shocks will have. You will need a good eye and patience for this step. While it is bleeding, lightly tap the side of the ride height collar with something to dislodge any air bubbles and quicken the bleeding process. Make sure you check the rod distance every couple of seconds since air bubbles escaping may make the rod recess quicker than expected. It is normal for the rod not to recess initially even though oil is bleeding out, but it will start to recess quicker as more oil bleeds out. With thicker weight oil, the rod will take more time to start recessing.
Once the rod has recessed to the desired amount, screw back on the end cap and clean the excess oil off the outside of the shock with motor cleaner

13. Place each front or rear shock pair (with all four holes open when using adjustable pistons) on a shock measuring tool, fully compress them and check the rebound damping speed and how far each extends itself to see if they are the same. If one shock is faster and extends more than the other, perform the following final bleeding process to the faster shock:

Take the shock off the shock measuring tool and turn it upside down
Push the piston in as far as it will go and let it rebound and extend out by itself. Do not pull it out any further. The rod will extend itself past the point where it was when you tightened down the end cap in the previous bleeding process.
Unscrew the end cap
Tap the ride height collar and bleed out more oil until the rod recesses a quarter of a millimeter below where it was when you tightened down the end cap in the previous bleeding process
Screw back on the end cap, test the rebound damping speed again for the pair and repeat the final bleeding process if necessary

14. Place a little amount of light oil onto the threads above the aluminum ride height collar and let it soak in. This will keep the collars from binding on the shock body threads when adjusting ride height.

NOTE: It is normal for some oil to bleed out of the bottom of the shock during the first few runs of the car. However, they will equalize at the right pressure without letting any air bubbles in if the O rings are still in good condition.

ok, so the old xray shocks require you to read all this shyt....then


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Anyone want to get the best shocks possible for the X-ray .... do yourselves all a favour and buy the new Serpent shocks (U need 2 sets rears 903165). They fit directly on and are the smoothest best working shocks I have ever seen. It took me exactly 4mins to fill with oil and assemble 4 shocks with no air bubbles and exactly the same rebound. They are just awesome.
these new serpent shocks require only 4 minutes according to this guy.SO DO YOU STILL THINK THE OLD XRAY SHOCKS ARE BETTER!!!??? NOPE!! this is why these serpent shocks are probably gonna find their way onto the fk05. xray has been bullshitting about their old shock design cuz they had nothing to replace them with...until now!!
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Xray shocks are awsome,
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:37 AM   #3772
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ok, so the old xray shocks require you to read all this shyt....then




these new serpent shocks require only 4 minutes according to this guy.SO DO YOU STILL THINK THE OLD XRAY SHOCKS ARE BETTER!!!??? NOPE!! this is why these serpent shocks are probably gonna find their way onto the fk05. xray has been bullshitting about their old shock design cuz they had nothing to replace them with...until now!!
EXACTLI ..... and that 4 minutes was being generous .... they are so simple and no hassle with loosing caps and bleeding and as u put it all that shyte and buying different bladders etc etc ...! These will be copied by XRAY and put on their cars no question.
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:34 AM   #3773
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I hope they decide to keep the adjustable pistons.
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Old 09-28-2005, 01:15 PM   #3774
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I hope they decide to keep the adjustable pistons.
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Old 09-28-2005, 03:16 PM   #3775
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With these I reckon u could change oil and the piston in about 6-8minutes for all 4 so prob dont need adjust anyway.
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Old 09-28-2005, 03:27 PM   #3776
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Will they be able to fit the FK05 Xray springs?????

Anyone!!!!!
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I am getting sick and tired of having to wait for months on end for parts.... HEY RCAMERICA ARE YOU LISTENING?? I am about ready to sell the car, and buy something that I can count on being able to get parts for, instead of a back order slip.

What a bunch of CRAP!!


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I am getting sick and tired of having to wait for months on end for parts.... HEY RCAMERICA ARE YOU LISTENING?? I am about ready to sell the car, and buy something that I can count on being able to get parts for, instead of a back order slip.

What a bunch of CRAP!!


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I am getting sick and tired of having to wait for months on end for parts.... HEY RCAMERICA ARE YOU LISTENING?? I am about ready to sell the car, and buy something that I can count on being able to get parts for, instead of a back order slip.

What a bunch of CRAP!!


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Wow, I guess I'd better hold on to the spare roller before deciding to let it go.
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Wow, I guess I'd better hold on to the spare roller before deciding to let it go.
I saw if first lol
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