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Old 02-07-2005, 05:16 PM
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:35 PM
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I''m not dissapointed to see XRay constantly innovating but I am to see that this car is the replacement of the Factory Kit.

Nothing is forcing me to get an FK'05. My bad experience with the TRF 415 kinda biases me against the new car already though. I'll be curious to see how it does and the only reason I can hope it doesn't work as well is the fact I can't afford a new car
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What was your bad experience with the 415 that has youbiased towards this car?

The main glaring complaints I've heard were lack of countersinking of the top plate causing it to tweak if you tap a wall, and the lack of an available front diff...

I'm sure both of these will be non-issues with the Xray
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:14 AM
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My main issue with the car is I was much faster with my XRay than I ever was with my 415. I could never get the car to steer or rotate nearly as well as my T1 or my 414MII. I might of tried a little harder to get my 415 dialed but...

...the slop, parts breakage and parts availibility all sucked...Not an issue with the XRay I have
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the fk05 looked ok on the track, but still probabl needs more runtime. the FK still looked better going around the track.

looking at the new fk05, I just wonder what the reason is that they made the top deck cover the 2 belts. Because of this, the design of the bulkheads are now much taller and the top deck is much higher then the FK. At this point, did they really reduce the CG of the car that much? Just take your FK and see how much you have to raise the top deck so that the top loop of the belt will clear the top deck. that is basically almost as high as where the layshaft is now.
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:58 AM
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Yeah, I question the top deck being pretty high up as well. When I looked real close last night, I see that deck is just slightly just below the rear roll center holders. And somehow I had it in my head that someone told me the pulleys might be smaller???

And the anchor shape part of the top deck is interesting......

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Old 02-08-2005, 01:53 PM
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I havnt seen it in person yet....but the drivers that did the most testing with it, probably have run more laps in fk type xray cars than any of us could imagine, so if they think this car is better, or has more potential than the previous cars........

as far as the front of the top plate being wide, it might help keep torsional twist from occuring as easily....just a guess lol
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:16 PM
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Is it me or does it look like a takes a 6 cell pack straight down the center, not 3x3????
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:19 PM
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ummmm....its not just you....thats how it is, tho not exactly down the center....
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:33 PM
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yea. juuust kinda off to the side. like a 415 as mentioned earlier....
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by BlackKat
My main issue with the car is I was much faster with my XRay than I ever was with my 415. I could never get the car to steer or rotate nearly as well as my T1 or my 414MII. I might of tried a little harder to get my 415 dialed but...

...the slop, parts breakage and parts availibility all sucked...Not an issue with the XRay I have
I'd have to agree with you on the quality of the 415. It's no where near the quality of an Xray. Tamiya really needs to upgrade their outdrives, universals, and get rid of the slop. The outdrives and universals that are used are old technology. I tried shimming a lot of the slop out, but then it binds so I just have to live with the slop for now. However, I do think Tamiya makes the best shocks in the business...

Anyhow I'm holding out for the new Team Losi JRXS. I think the JRXS is going to set the standard. At least for foam carpet racing, I think it will be unstoppable.

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Old 02-08-2005, 02:57 PM
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I'm planning on a new car, definite belt drive and it's between the new Xray and the JRXS.... This is going to be interesting...
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Originally posted by Apex
I'd have to agree with you on the quality of the 415. It's no where near the quality of an Xray. Tamiya really needs to upgrade their outdrives, universals, and get rid of the slop. The outdrives and universals that are used are old technology. I tried shimming a lot of the slop out, but then it binds so I just have to live with the slop for now. However, I do think Tamiya makes the best shocks in the business...

Anyhow I'm holding out for the new Team Losi JRXS. I think the JRXS is going to set the standard. At least for foam carpet racing, I think it will be unstoppable.

Tamiya's outdrives works well, there's nothing wron with them apart from lifetime being a bit low (but they're aluminium, the steel ones lasts for ages). As for slop, there is not such thing as a slop free car, plus it doesn't change the way the car handles, this is a false argument.
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Old 02-08-2005, 05:37 PM
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I like the layout of the fk05. It looks like my Corally RDX, however the top plate being higher on the Xray does puzzle me. The RDX has to have the lowest center of gravity out there.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:00 PM
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having the center of gravity low is important, but having the roll center correct, is where you get side bite, so what top plate is a fraction higher or lower isnt that big of a deal, its the total combination of the suspension that really tells the story.....
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