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Old 05-10-2005, 07:14 PM   #2221
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Can anyone help on how to build the X-ray shocks so that there is no rebound ... I must have tried about ten times now and just can't seem to do it ...???????????????
It's alright to have some rebound. I believe Martin uses a ton, maybe even full rebound. As long as you do it consistently to all shocks all the time. You will be able to work with your rebound and find a consistant setting after every rebuild.

TIP: when you turn your shocks over for bottom cap bleeding (make sure the shaft if fully extended), use a standard Xacto blade horizontally or a ride-height gauge turned sideways as a means of stopping the shaft from going all the way in. So about a 1/4" or less. Then carefully close the cap making sure that the shaft doesn't move to prevent air from entering. After a while you'll find the sweet spot for perfect rebound and it will be dead on for each shock you build. Doing it this way, I can almost rebuild all four in about 20min.

Make sure to use the Xray aftermarket set of diaphrams, not the short hard ones that came with the 04 kit (dimpled to easily). I actually like the Serpent diaphrams with Xray foam inserts.
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Can anyone recommend a good starting point as far as the shocks on med bite carpet. What colors? Thanks
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I cant understand why you guys try to get no rebound. I have never felt the difference and it doesnt affect my cars performance. Do you think that little pressure from rebound is going to make a difference with 30lb springs on your car?
Your car will be harder to drive ( bumpy feeling ) If the rebound effect is too strong. When you drop the car from 4 cm, the car will land on the ground with "bang" sound.

The best suspension setup ( i've seen from my friend's car ) :

The shock really absorb the weight of the car without bottoming out from 4 cm drop height. It should produce nice "absorbing" sound instead of "bang" sound.

You can see slight compression when you lift the wheel on opposite / diagonal side.

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Old 05-11-2005, 01:38 AM   #2224
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It's alright to have some rebound. I believe Martin uses a ton, maybe even full rebound. As long as you do it consistently to all shocks all the time. You will be able to work with your rebound and find a consistant setting after every rebuild.

TIP: when you turn your shocks over for bottom cap bleeding (make sure the shaft if fully extended), use a standard Xacto blade horizontally or a ride-height gauge turned sideways as a means of stopping the shaft from going all the way in. So about a 1/4" or less. Then carefully close the cap making sure that the shaft doesn't move to prevent air from entering. After a while you'll find the sweet spot for perfect rebound and it will be dead on for each shock you build. Doing it this way, I can almost rebuild all four in about 20min.

Make sure to use the Xray aftermarket set of diaphrams, not the short hard ones that came with the 04 kit (dimpled to easily). I actually like the Serpent diaphrams with Xray foam inserts.
Thanks for info ...... what does the x-ray foam insert do when used in the top of the shock?
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:59 AM   #2225
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Can anyone recommend a good starting point as far as the shocks on med bite carpet. What colors? Thanks
I run purple front and either lt purple or violet in the back. The shocks are the adjustable kind with 2 holes front and 3 back. and when looking at the shock mounting there practally standing up...
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:23 PM   #2226
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Since they come pre-filed will they work with 3700's or do you to filed them down?
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Old 05-11-2005, 07:26 PM   #2227
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Since they come pre-filed will they work with 3700's or do you to filed them down?
Not sure what chassis you are talking about... the kit 05 chassis is not pre-filed, and from reports does not fit 3700's.
Might have more luck asking this question with more specifics on the teamxray forum

Of course if you are asking about a BMI chassis... well try the BMI thread..
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Can anyone recommend a good starting point as far as the shocks on med bite carpet. What colors? Thanks
Depends on what tires and motor you run.

Stock & 19T Foams: F=Light-Purple/R=Dark Blue, No. 4 hole on front and rear towers, 3 holes open all around w/Xray 30wt.

Or better yet, go to:
http://www.teamxray.com/xforum/xsheets.php
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Thanks for info ...... what does the x-ray foam insert do when used in the top of the shock?
Just to clarify, the foam insert goes in the diaphram. I believe it helps prevent the diaphram from "caving in" and staying that way.
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The Thick chassis for the 05 does come with the battery slots pre-filed, and it will accomodate the new 3700 cells...if you use the xray battery strap, dont loose the shims that come with it becuase you will need those shims for the 3700 cells also.
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:51 AM   #2231
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Just to clarify, the foam insert goes in the diaphram. I believe it helps prevent the diaphram from "caving in" and staying that way.

it will also help the shocks provide more consistent rebounds
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Not sure what chassis you are talking about... the kit 05 chassis is not pre-filed, and from reports does not fit 3700's.
Might have more luck asking this question with more specifics on the teamxray forum

Of course if you are asking about a BMI chassis... well try the BMI thread..
The 3mm Xray chassis has the battery slots beveled.
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it will also help the shocks provide more consistent rebounds
Thats true, tamiya first came out with it and works well.
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How do you guys set droop? Do i need the hudy droop gauge and blocks that go under the chassis? I am used to setting droop on a tc3 and that was really simple and the part came with the kit. Any suggestions..
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