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Old 03-27-2012, 03:28 PM   #1
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Hey guys,

I saw this RC touring car for sale on EBay and it is posted as follows: "R/C RC Auto 1/10 1:10 scale kit Car for Tamiya TRF416 TRF 416 416WE chassis"

I have not posted enough on this site to give you a direct link. Sorry.

At under $150, that is a lot of aluminum and carbon fiber, but I know that looks can be very deceiving. I currently own and love my HPI Cup Racer and use it for drifting, but I am getting smoked around the track by the belt driven cars with the counter steer mod. I am looking to pick up something used or inexpensive since it's just for fun and nothing serious.

Please let me know what you think. Thanks in advance.
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Its a clone.
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Its a clone.
+100 definitely a clone for that price
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Its a clone.
What do you think? Good idea or bad idea? Do you or know anybody who has had good or bad experiences with clones?

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Yup, it's a clone, the only problem I see is parts, unless you can actually use the original models parts then it should be worth it, but if you can't then its useless.
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Yup, it's a clone, the only problem I see is parts, unless you can actually use the original models parts then it should be worth it, but if you can't then its useless.
Thanks for the heads up guys. Parts availability is a must in this hobby. But for the price it would be awesome if parts were truly interchangeable.
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Yup, it's a clone, the only problem I see is parts, unless you can actually use the original models parts then it should be worth it, but if you can't then its useless.
Parts are compatible. I have a few clones here and have no trouble using original parts on them.
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There is a thread on here about the clone 416. The parts are all interchangeable. The overall quality of the clone won't have the TRF level of build quality (Nothing much else does).
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http://www.r2hobbies.com/eng/proddet...prod=rcve00051 That is where they originate from, quality is pretty good, uses the same dies as the original just different material quality in manufacture.
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Thanks RogerDaShrubber and Quatmix. Great info and much appreciated.
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Clones in any hobby are detrimental to that hobby, hard work and lots of money go into R+D, don't support clones, weather it be parts, RTR kits, what ever. Clones= bad..
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Clones in any hobby are detrimental to that hobby, hard work and lots of money go into R+D, don't support clones, weather it be parts, RTR kits, what ever. Clones= bad..
Good point FUAddicts. I remember looking into a Kyosho Ultima DB and finding an identical model on hobby king's website. I actually just did a search on google images and clicked on what I thought was a custom painted Ulitima DB. I looked into it and saw it was another company that made it. With further investigation, I saw on a forum that someone mentioned it was a clone and brought up the same point that you did about the time, money and R+D that is bypassed by the other company.

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Good point FUAddicts. I remember looking into a Kyosho Ultima DB and finding an identical model on hobby king's website. I actually just did a search on google images and clicked on what I thought was a custom painted Ulitima DB. I looked into it and saw it was another company that made it. With further investigation, I saw on a forum that someone mentioned it was a clone and brought up the same point that you did about the time, money and R+D that is bypassed by the other company.

I respect your view and thank you for sharing it.
The Kyosho and HSP clones are mostly all OEM builds and contain only minor changes over the original, pretty much anyone can OEM one of these and call it whatever they like. The only real difference between the lot of them are the materials that go into them to build them to price points. The LRP cars for example are all HSP clones with better plastics and some cool drivers name attached to it.
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The Kyosho and HSP clones are mostly all OEM builds and contain only minor changes over the original, pretty much anyone can OEM one of these and call it whatever they like. The only real difference between the lot of them are the materials that go into them to build them to price points. The LRP cars for example are all HSP clones with better plastics and some cool drivers name attached to it.
I can't say this is true for all R/C items (motors, ESCs, batteries...) but Tamiya chassis' are NOT OEM rebadges. This is a clone, a copy, a rip-off, and it's pretty upsetting to see. It does not use the same molds, although the primary dimensions will likely be the same. Some guy took some calipers, measured all the key dimensions, and reproduced the design using cheaper materials. It looks the same, but the quality is most certainly inferior. The people at Tamiya spent their time and hard work developing this design, and to see it just ripped off like this is such a shame.
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If it is a clone and the materials are good it is a bargain. I had a clone of a Mini Inferno and it was compatible with the original parts and aftermarket parts. This must a good clone using alloy and carbon parts.
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