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U.S. Vintage Trans-Am Racing Part 2
#7891
Tech Addict
Also, since this is your first set of HPI vintage wheels..., if you get the chrome or the matte chrome, most guys remove the chrome from the part of the wheel that will be glued to the tire.
Otherwise, after you glue them and run them, the chrome will lift off of the plastic along with your tire. Thus the reason I only get black and white wheels anymore.
The guys that get the chrome and spend the time gluing them properly, end up with a better looking car...
Otherwise, after you glue them and run them, the chrome will lift off of the plastic along with your tire. Thus the reason I only get black and white wheels anymore.
The guys that get the chrome and spend the time gluing them properly, end up with a better looking car...
#7892
Tech Elite
iTrader: (115)
Also, since this is your first set of HPI vintage wheels..., if you get the chrome or the matte chrome, most guys remove the chrome from the part of the wheel that will be glued to the tire.
Otherwise, after you glue them and run them, the chrome will lift off of the plastic along with your tire. Thus the reason I only get black and white wheels anymore.
The guys that get the chrome and spend the time gluing them properly, end up with a better looking car...
Otherwise, after you glue them and run them, the chrome will lift off of the plastic along with your tire. Thus the reason I only get black and white wheels anymore.
The guys that get the chrome and spend the time gluing them properly, end up with a better looking car...
#7893
Tech Fanatic
Also, since this is your first set of HPI vintage wheels..., if you get the chrome or the matte chrome, most guys remove the chrome from the part of the wheel that will be glued to the tire.
Otherwise, after you glue them and run them, the chrome will lift off of the plastic along with your tire. Thus the reason I only get black and white wheels anymore.
The guys that get the chrome and spend the time gluing them properly, end up with a better looking car...
Otherwise, after you glue them and run them, the chrome will lift off of the plastic along with your tire. Thus the reason I only get black and white wheels anymore.
The guys that get the chrome and spend the time gluing them properly, end up with a better looking car...
I'm thinking about painting the 5-spokes in black, that should give the wheels/car a better and more realistic look.
I also prefer the HPI 1968 chevrolet camaro body set, the looks of this body is all about being a muscle car.
#7894
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iTrader: (21)
I hope y'all don't mind me posting this, but am upcoming medical procedure is kind of forcing the sale of my Xray T4 VTA car. Hopefully soon I'll be in the market to replace it, but for now it has to go (maybe my USGT, too).
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...-vta-artr.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...-vta-artr.html
#7895
Tech Elite
iTrader: (9)
That was also my intention when glueing the tires, cause i like those mat chrome wheels (3815&3820) a lot.
I'm thinking about painting the 5-spokes in black, that should give the wheels/car a better and more realistic look.
I also prefer the HPI 1968 chevrolet camaro body set, the looks of this body is all about being a muscle car.
I'm thinking about painting the 5-spokes in black, that should give the wheels/car a better and more realistic look.
I also prefer the HPI 1968 chevrolet camaro body set, the looks of this body is all about being a muscle car.
Also be aware that there are different HPI vintage tires - racing tread, performance tread, racing slicks, & drift slicks. Here in the US we race VTA using the Vintage Racing tread tires. Here is a link on HPI (http://www.hpiracing.com/en/product_...ct_group_10TTV)
Last thing, check out the rules for the USVTA here (http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rules/index.html). Maybe you can convince some people in the area of your country to start the class there. If you are going to be playing on a large outdoor track, you could also start an "Outlaw" VTA class using ROAR 21.5 motors.
Last edited by IndyRC_Racer; 10-05-2014 at 08:51 PM.
#7896
Tech Fanatic
Before you paint, HPI does sell 5-spokes in black (not sure about availability). Check out this link on their website for vintage wheels (http://www.hpiracing.com/en/product_...ct_group_10TWV)
Also be aware that there are different HPI vintage tires - racing tread, performance tread, racing slicks, & drift slicks. Here in the US we race VTA using the Vintage Racing tread tires. Here is a link on HPI (http://www.hpiracing.com/en/product_...ct_group_10TTV)
Last thing, check out the rules for the USVTA here (http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rules/index.html). Maybe you can convince some people in the area of your country to start the class there. If you are going to be playing on a large outdoor track, you could also start an "Outlaw" VTA class using ROAR 21.5 motors.
Also be aware that there are different HPI vintage tires - racing tread, performance tread, racing slicks, & drift slicks. Here in the US we race VTA using the Vintage Racing tread tires. Here is a link on HPI (http://www.hpiracing.com/en/product_...ct_group_10TTV)
Last thing, check out the rules for the USVTA here (http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rules/index.html). Maybe you can convince some people in the area of your country to start the class there. If you are going to be playing on a large outdoor track, you could also start an "Outlaw" VTA class using ROAR 21.5 motors.
Will run the car with a 21.5T and for tires i will order 4793&4797. (i think they are the most commen tires used for VTA races)
Over here there isn't enough intrest to start a new class with a 21.5T motor&blinky ESC, but you'll never know.
#7897
Tech Fanatic
I hope y'all don't mind me posting this, but am upcoming medical procedure is kind of forcing the sale of my Xray T4 VTA car. Hopefully soon I'll be in the market to replace it, but for now it has to go (maybe my USGT, too).
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...-vta-artr.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...-vta-artr.html
#7899
Tech Addict
iTrader: (57)
I hope y'all don't mind me posting this, but am upcoming medical procedure is kind of forcing the sale of my Xray T4 VTA car. Hopefully soon I'll be in the market to replace it, but for now it has to go (maybe my USGT, too).
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...-vta-artr.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...-vta-artr.html
#7900
Tech Addict
iTrader: (27)
Sorry about this old quote just throwing my 2 cents in and USVTA maybe slower but by no means is it a NOOB class! Its an awesome class that's keeping on-road racing alive!
#7903
Tech Fanatic
I completely agree! I love my trinity motors but when it comes to USVTA I am all about NOVAK. The USVTA rules were put in place to keep the class honest and close. I Know for a fact many people do not like NOVAK however I think its pretty awesome Bob Novak and his team stepped up to the plate to provide spec equipment for such an awesome class. Seriously, they even put VTA on the can! How can you not love that dedication? I have said it at least 100 times this year, "if it wasn't for USVTA, I would not have come back to racing on-road again." I have begun racing USGT and 17.5 TC as well but still prefer my VTA ride. The other classes show one extreme truth though.........NOT ALL MOTORS AND SPEEDOS ARE CREATED EQUAL! I know tuning is a major factor in all R/C racing but USVTA keeps everyone true to SPEC Racing
Sorry about this old quote just throwing my 2 cents in and USVTA maybe slower but by no means is it a NOOB class! Its an awesome class that's keeping on-road racing alive!
Sorry about this old quote just throwing my 2 cents in and USVTA maybe slower but by no means is it a NOOB class! Its an awesome class that's keeping on-road racing alive!
As far as the motor/ESC wars you allege, we regularly have at least 10 USGT cars each weekend. I did a survey of the motors being used and found there have been at least 6 different OEM motors in a field of 10. All cars were running within 1 sec a lap on a big outdoor track at one of the biggest race series here in Texas (EOS). So to me there doesn't seem to be a "you have to have this motor to win". With correct timing and gearing, just about any 21.5 motor can win (even the $50 TrackStar is consistently at the top each week - holding its own against some big buck hand built motors). However, you had better be a very good driver and know how to set up your car (but aren't those the very skills we want to develop with spec racing)?
I admit I didn't check ESCs. However, in blinky mode with ROAR approved non timing software I don't see a big performance issue there and apparently neither does USVTA since they have opened up the ESC rule for USVTA (there are certainly advantages to using my Tekin Gen 2 ESCs instead of my HobbyWing Just Stock ESC, but improved on track performance isn't one of them).
So I don't buy either of your premises: As much as the USVTA zealots want to keep sticking their heads in the sand and pretending there aren't problems, Novak motors are not providing a good spec racing environment for the reasons I mention above; nor are the motor wars you prophesize occurring at least in USGT. I'm sure some fool(s) will go out and buy a $150+ hand built certified motor thinking it will make them more competitive - the real secret they don't want to hear (or admit) is they need to drive better with the motor they have. That and Paragon Black have been the same for the nearly 33 years I've been racing RC cars.
I know I'm going to be labeled as a Novak hater after this post, I'm not! While IMO the motor has serious warts from a spec racing perspective (i.e., level the playing field), it's actually a pretty good motor when it works correctly. If USVTA dropped the 45 degree timing rule, the Novak Ballistic motor would only have one serious problem that being the tech tear down to ensure its legal. The 45 degree rule penalizes those who have motors with less than 45 degrees timing and rewards those that have more than 45 degrees when the timing label says 45 degrees.
Just my 2 cents
#7905
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iTrader: (27)
I will say this though, if your going to salute the Novak Flag, I will salute with you. If your going to vomit, I guess I'll be the one to hold your hair back 8 ) LOL.
Anything man made will not be perfect. Great response and I'm not one to judge I just appreciate the class for what it simply is. 8 ) Everything you said makes perfect sense I just don't see the need to chase perfection. The cost controlled part of the VTA racing is a big plus when its kept simple. I buy all my cars used for this reason. 8 ) I'm just a guy that enjoys racing and only looking for some clean laps with my buddies. ROAR VTA allows all those choices which is great for the guys that have their own requirements. It's all gravy IMHO. Just letting you guys know I'm a Trinity Motor FAN BOY for the record and Love me some Tekin speedos 8 )
Really awesome response though and appreciate your dedication to on-road. Guys like you help guys like me to be more knowledgeable of the hobby we all love so much. Thanks "D".
Anything man made will not be perfect. Great response and I'm not one to judge I just appreciate the class for what it simply is. 8 ) Everything you said makes perfect sense I just don't see the need to chase perfection. The cost controlled part of the VTA racing is a big plus when its kept simple. I buy all my cars used for this reason. 8 ) I'm just a guy that enjoys racing and only looking for some clean laps with my buddies. ROAR VTA allows all those choices which is great for the guys that have their own requirements. It's all gravy IMHO. Just letting you guys know I'm a Trinity Motor FAN BOY for the record and Love me some Tekin speedos 8 )
Really awesome response though and appreciate your dedication to on-road. Guys like you help guys like me to be more knowledgeable of the hobby we all love so much. Thanks "D".
Last edited by Loco4G63T; 10-07-2014 at 05:45 AM. Reason: Gramatical error