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Old 06-25-2013, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by .crispy View Post
We usually have three heats of six on a regular old Friday. I think I counted about 24-28 if all of the regulars with a VTA car showed up at the same time.

I would HOPE that all of the regulars and local part-timers show up plus a fair chunk of out-of-towners.

That being said, I will miss my home Trophy race. Going to be on vacation...
That's been typical of Jackson as far as VTA goes. Many of the guys from MRH that run VTA, don't travel. Very few of the locals at Jackson run VTA, as they take 17.5 and mod as their main classes, getting ready for major events (one of them was running mod and 17.5 for that race). There were 3 of us that ended up running, it was still fun but it'd be great if more showed. Many more guys ran at the Horsham race in December.
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That's been typical of Jackson as far as VTA goes. Many of the guys from MRH that run VTA, don't travel. Very few of the locals at Jackson run VTA, as they take 17.5 and mod as their main classes, getting ready for major events (one of them was running mod and 17.5 for that race). There were 3 of us that ended up running, it was still fun but it'd be great if more showed. Many more guys ran at the Horsham race in December.
I figured as much. I had my 17.5 car all together but couldn't get my ESC to work. It was 1:30 AM and so I figured I would just show up with the VTA and see what happens. No biggie. I'll drive to Indiana to run lol. Are you talking about the Slowbirds race? I plan on making that this coming year. Ray Murray always puts on a good show.
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Was actually talking the Toys for Tots Charity race at Christmas time, last year we had about 20 entries. I've never been able to make Ray's slowbird race at Horsham, both years I was busy that weekend. Sunday's are tough being so far away before work the next day. When carpet season gets kicking, MRH is a fun place to race for a change of pace if you're going to Horsham. I like both, just happen to live 20 minutes from MRH, whereas the year before I was living in Philly on the weekends with my wife while she was in med school so Horsham was my place that year.
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Thinking of getting into vta. My ? is how much car do i need as a beginner(race 1/8 nitro buggy now). Is the $149 tc4 club racer good out of the box or would it need too many upgrades? Tc6.1 is really nice looking but $400 is a lot more to pay. Also i have a ko propo rsx response servo, will this be good for tc steering or do i need low profile? Any advice appreciated, thanks
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Originally Posted by DougH View Post
Here are some videos of last weekends VTA action at Nor Cal Hobbies, VTA is growing fast in Northern California. Note we ran the main in the oppositte direction as qualifications, this was announced as the cars were lined up for the main. Nobody had a single lap of practise in that direction and it was still a pretty clean start

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...HHDd3U-z0swMC2
very cool.

Doug..since you are in the next town from I, you plan on going to Delta raceway when they get the new on road track complete? I just bought a TC chassis and am gearing up for the VTA class there.
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Thinking of getting into vta. My ? is how much car do i need as a beginner(race 1/8 nitro buggy now). Is the $149 tc4 club racer good out of the box or would it need too many upgrades? Tc6.1 is really nice looking but $400 is a lot more to pay. Also i have a ko propo rsx response servo, will this be good for tc steering or do i need low profile? Any advice appreciated, thanks
I see a lot of club racers and TC3s for that matter. There is also the Sakura cars in that price range, and the spec r car as well.

Your servo should be fine.
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Originally Posted by boxstang40 View Post
Thinking of getting into vta. My ? is how much car do i need as a beginner(race 1/8 nitro buggy now). Is the $149 tc4 club racer good out of the box or would it need too many upgrades? Tc6.1 is really nice looking but $400 is a lot more to pay. Also i have a ko propo rsx response servo, will this be good for tc steering or do i need low profile? Any advice appreciated, thanks
You could run a used $50 tc3 and still win. I've seen losi xxx-s cars kick butt.
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Thanks for the info. Also on batteries amain has the eco 5000 30c for $35 and protek 5000 35c for $59. Both r amain brands and hard case roar approved so is there any reason to buy the more expensive battery?
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Thanks for the info. Also on batteries amain has the eco 5000 30c for $35 and protek 5000 35c for $59. Both r amain brands and hard case roar approved so is there any reason to buy the more expensive battery?
SMC ROAR-approved 5000mAh (inboard, Traxxas, or Dean's) for $29.99:

http://www.smc-racing.net/index.php?...ory&path=67_78
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SMC ROAR-approved 5000mAh (inboard, Traxxas, or Dean's) for $29.99:

http://www.smc-racing.net/index.php?...ory&path=67_78
I bought me one of them 40C packs for my VTA car. Every bit as good or better than the Reedy pack I have of the same specs.
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very cool.

Doug..since you are in the next town from I, you plan on going to Delta raceway when they get the new on road track complete? I just bought a TC chassis and am gearing up for the VTA class there.
I'm gearing up for the Delta onroad track too! I picked up a Sakura Zero S that's set up for VTA. They laid the asphalt down already. Shouldn't be too much longer until its ready!
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I'm gearing up for the Delta onroad track too! I picked up a Sakura Zero S that's set up for VTA. They laid the asphalt down already. Shouldn't be too much longer until its ready!
Awesome. I picked up a TC6.1 Worlds (although it will be overkill for VTA but whatevzies).

Also believe its going to draw a large crowd as their is a big need around the east bay for another venue (besides norcal hobbies).

Almost perfect if someone built a track right off the 680 in San Ramon or even Dublin area.
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I can't wait for Delta to finally start running indoor again. Anyone remember racing on the indoor carpet track they used to have at the fairgrounds?

I remember when we ran the Spec10 class, somehow that car exactly suited me and I was one of the fast guys when we ran that class. Now I'm at the back of the pack but still having fun.
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Never been much of a road racer; always been an oval guy.

That being said...yesterday, we hosted the 2013 Firecracker Classic at The Gate in Brunswick, OH (near Cleveland). I've always liked the old muscle cars, and, bein' a "stock car" guy, we had a "VTA on the oval" class at this race.

We had seven cars in the class, which is more than I expected :P Minimal changes to the cars - just had to get them to remember that they needed to turn left *only*...LOL...

Now...here's the thing. I *LOVED* seeing these cars on the oval. They remind me of old "Street Stock" or "Sportsman" type short track cars. For a while now, I've had an idea for a VTA-based oval class, using the VTA motor/battery/ESC/chassis rules, but, using HPI's slicks and vintage stock car wheels, and opening up the body rules to any vintage stock car body 1985 and older. There's a list of quite a few bodies. I've had a few people respond favorably to this idea over on the HobbyTalk boards:

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=396527

Here's the look we're going for (minus the T/A decals, of course; the tires/wheels in this pic are from the Traxxas Kyle Busch truck and placed just for reference):



...and a list of rules:

Use the USVTA rules as a base. Touring-car chassis, AWD/4WD. No "oval-only" chassis. Use USVTA electronics/battery/motor rules. Driver figure not required.
Motor Specifications:
25.5 brushless with 2C 5000mAh LiPo: Novak 25.5 Spec brushless motor or Ballistic 25.5 ONLY combined with any hard-cased 2C 7.4v LiPo pack up to and including 5000 mAh capacity. Novak motors are the ONLY motor allowed at this time. All house track rules regarding LiPo usage apply. Only physical motor timing advance is allowed, however Ballistic motors must not be advanced beyond the last line of the timing range sticker. 12.3 mm rotor diameter only (no "tuning" rotors are allowed, only stock Novak rotors allowed). Using ceramic bearings in the motor makes you a dork. No modifications or optional parts allowed on motor can, endbell, stator, or rotor. No cooling holes or other changes allowed to motor. Fans and external clip on heatsinks are allowed, but integral type heatsinks/fans including but not limited to those that require motor disassembly to mount are illegal.

All decisions of the race promoter or track owner are final.
Approved ESCs:

Novak-
Club Brushless ESC (#1852)
EDGE 2S Brushless ESC (#1850, 1851)
Mongoose Micro Brushless/Brush ESC (#1718)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive (#1749)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive- Low Profile (#1748)
GTB 2 Sportsman Racing Brushless ESC (#1708, 1709)
GTB series part numbers:1710, 1711
Havoc series part numbers:1732, 1733, 1735
Slyder part number: 1712

LRP
A.i. Brushless Reverse part numbers: LRP80100, LRP80150

SPEED PASSION
Cirtix Stock Club Race ESC part number: 12280
Reventon Stock Club Race part number:SP000048

HOBBYWING
JUSTOCK Club ESC (same esc, but differing part numbers)-
Falcon Sekido Part #
Hobbywing Justock Black: 81020001 (Black)
Hobbywing Justock blue 81020000 (Blue)

CRC Part #
7014 - Hobbywing XERUN Juststock Club No timing ESC - Sensored

Battery Specifications:
2 cell LiPo hard cased, 5000 mAh limit

Ride Height Specification:
Minimum ride height is 5mm.

Weight Specification:
Minimum 1550g in race-ready trim

Tires:
HPI P/N #4792 (Rear, slick, D-compound, 31mm) and P/N #4791 (Front, slick, D-compound, 26mm) ONLY.

Wheels:
HPI wheels P/N #'s:
#33472 VINTAGE Wheel CC Type 26mm CHROME(0mm OFFSET/2pcs)
#33473 VINTAGE Wheel CC Type 31mm CHROME(6mm OFFSET/2pcs)
#3743 Stock Car Wheel 26mm Chrome (1mm Offset)
#3741 Stock Car Wheel 26mm Black
#3854 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm BLACK (0mm OFFSET)
#3855 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm WHITE (0mm OFFSET)
#3856 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm GUNMETAL (0mm OFFSET)
#3857 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 26mm CHROME (0mm OFFSET)
#3858 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 31mm BLACK (6mm OFFSET)
#3859 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 31mm WHITE (6mm OFFSET)
#3860 VINTAGE STOCK CAR WHEEL 31mm GUNMETAL (6mm OFFSET)

Bodies: 1985 and older body styles only. No additional spoilers, except whatever comes *with* the body (HPI Camaros, etc.). NO WINGS (except on Plymouth Superbird/Dodge Daytona from RJSpeed).

Bodies must be 1955-1985 full-fendered stock car “Street Stock/Bomber/Thunder Car”-type body. Legal bodies are the following:

http://www.rjspeed.com - RJSpeed
‘71 Mercury Cyclone P/N #1034
'55 Chevy "Sportsman" P/N #RJS1051
'68 Chevy Camaro SS P/N #BOL2112 (7.6" wide)
'65 Ford Mustang Shelby GT P/N #2113 (7.6" wide)
'68 Chevy Chevelle P/N #BOL2213
'69 Dodge Charger P/N #BOL2257
'68 Chevy Camaro P/N #BOL2262 (8" wide)
'65 Ford Mustang Shelby GT P/N #BOL2263 (8" wide)
'64 Chevy Impala P/N #BOL2264
'69 Ford Torino Talladega P/N #BOL2265
'70 Chevy Nova SS P/N #BOL2278
'72 Chevy Monte Carlo P/N #BOL2286
'70 Plymouth Superbird (with wing) P/N #BOL2287
'67 Chevy Camaro P/N #BOL2371 (9" wide)
'65 Ford Mustang Shelby GT P/N #BOL2374
'55 Chevy Bel-Air P/N #BOL2382

http://www.windtunnelracingproducts.com/ - Wind Tunnel Racing Products
’83-’85 ASA Pontiac Firebird Late Model P/N #WT2392

http://www.mcallisterracing.com/racing/ - McAllister Racing
’74-’81 Camaro Street Stock P/N #264
’70 Ford Mustang Street Stock P/N #136
’70 Plymouth Barracuda Street Stock P/N #134
’83-’85 Pontiac Firebird Street Stock P/N #256
’57 Ford Bomber P/N #181
’55 Chevy Bomber P/N #182
'78 Camaro IROC P/N #275
'59 Plymouth P/N #292
'69 Charger P/N #290
'85 Monte Carlo P/N #268
'70 Pontiac Firebird P/N #295

http://www.hpiracing.com/home/ - HPI Racing
1965 Ford Shelby GT-350 Mustang (200mm) P/N #17508
1966 Ford Mustang GT (200mm) P/N #17519
1968 Chevy Camaro (200mm) P/N #7494
1978 Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am (200mm) P/N #107201
1970 Dodge Challenger (200mm) P/N #1015106
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 (200mm) P/N #17546
1969 Chevy Camaro (200mm) P/N #17531
1966 Ford Mustang Coupe (200mm) P/N #104926

http://www.parmapse.com/
’61 Chevy Impala P/N #PA10196 (Parma)
’70 Ford Boss Mustang P/N #PA10141 (Parma)
’57 Chevy P/N #PA10162 (Parma)
’70 Barracuda P/N #PA10113 (Parma)

http://www.speedysracingparts.com/RC_Racing_Bodies.htm - Speedy’s Racing Parts
’74-’81 Camaro Street Stock P/N #MCA-264 (McAllister)
‘70 Plymouth Barracuda Street Stock P/N #134 (McAllister)
‘70 Ford Mustang Street Stock P/N #136 (McAllister)
’57 Ford Bomber P/N #MCA-181 (McAllister)
’55 Chevy Bomber P/N #MCA-182 (McAllister)
’68 Chevy Chevelle P/N #BL2213 (old BoLink P/N)
’69 Dodge Charger P/N #BL2257 (old BoLink P/N)
’68 Chevy Camaro P/N #BL2262 (old BoLink P/N)
’65 Ford Mustang P/N #BL2263 (190mm) (old BoLink P/N)
’64 Chevy Impala P/N #BL2264 (old BoLink P/N)
’70 Chevy Nova P/N #BL2278 (old BoLink P/N)
’69 Ford Torino Talladega/Mercury Cyclone Spoiler P/N #BL2265 (old BoLink P/N)
’72 Chevy Monte Carlo P/N #BL2286 (old BoLink P/N)
’70 Plymouth Superbird P/N #BL2287 (old BoLink P/N)

http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...filter_mfr/325 - A-Main Hobbies/Pegasus Hobbies:
’70 1/2 Camaro PGH4001
’70 Mustang PGH4002
’70 Barracuda PGH4003

http://racepf.com/vintage-trans-am/j71-clear-body/ - ProtoForm Bodies
’70 AMC Javelin P/N 1526-00
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The class will be "designed" to get guys racing older Touring Cars, but, being on the oval, you can be a *little* more aggressive in racing

What's your guys' opinions?

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Honestly the only thing i would do is stick to the usvta rules. Makes it easier to get crossover racers. If I perceive someone has an advantage to the body I run onroad with ill have to go out and get another body.
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