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Old 03-05-2012, 09:53 AM   #1
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Questions?? Need help of setup at painted basketball court race

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In fact i have a race in next month on painted concrete surface, which shown on picture, I will run with my old Cyclone TC, about tires i have set to using X pattern PRO compound.
Could somebody suggest me the setup, maybe tips and what insert suggest to put in my radial tires, please?

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Old 03-05-2012, 07:20 PM   #2
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Could somebody hep me out, please?
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:37 PM   #3
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Can you run foam tires at the race. If you can put contact cerment on the out side of the tires. Works great on painted surface.
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Can you run foam tires at the race. If you can put contact cerment on the out side of the tires. Works great on painted surface.
What, are you sure?
Wouldn't getting worse?
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Try thin soft inserts to help w/ low bite surfaces like that! The surface looks very smooth and slick!
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What, are you sure?
Wouldn't getting worse?
LOL, sure. We used to do it 20+ years ago before there are any "real" tracks. You need to apply 2-3 thin coats and need to wait for them to dry between coat. And you need to wait till it dry to around 90% or the car will stick to the ground. LOL. But don't do it over night as with the solven tires will turn really hard....
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LOL, sure. We used to do it 20+ years ago before there are any "real" tracks. You need to apply 2-3 thin coats and need to wait for them to dry between coat. And you need to wait till it dry to around 90% or the car will stick to the ground. LOL. But don't do it over night as with the solven tires will turn really hard....
Thanks for your suggest, but i don't remember to type on previous message(i put by phone, it was so hard with my fingers), in fact the rules just allow rubber without any sauce.
So, Don't you think the rules are tough?
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Try thin soft inserts to help w/ low bite surfaces like that! The surface looks very smooth and slick!
No, the surface is re-painted in few months ago. Somebody tell me, it was so slick, but after the new painting is getting worse.
Could you tell me what kind of insert is enough thin and soft, please?

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No sauce, huh??? That'll make things tricky...

I'd try tire warmers if you can't use sauce. I'd also soften my springs and shock oil to get the car to roll more, which should increase grip. Use HPI Yellow 24mm inserts if you can find them, otherwise use HPI 24mm red inserts for those tires. I've used them before with X-Patterns, and they work pretty well.

Are you allowed to clean the tires using Simple Green? It's not quite sauce, but helps with traction.
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No sauce, huh??? That'll make things tricky...

I'd try tire warmers if you can't use sauce. I'd also soften my springs and shock oil to get the car to roll more, which should increase grip. Use HPI Yellow 24mm inserts if you can find them, otherwise use HPI 24mm red inserts for those tires. I've used them before with X-Patterns, and they work pretty well.

Are you allowed to clean the tires using Simple Green? It's not quite sauce, but helps with traction.
Yellow and Red?
I just have got some oranges.
Thanks anyway!
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Thanks for your suggest, but i don't remember to type on previous message(i put by phone, it was so hard with my fingers), in fact the rules just allow rubber without any sauce.
So, Don't you think the rules are tough?
Wor, no sauce on this surface???? Sure I think it is tough..... for chassis maybe you would increase the flow (less down stop), softer spring, more rear toe, and maybe a bit more flex on the chassis by removing some upper deck screw connecting to the front and rear bulkhead. And use a thinner chassis?
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Wor, no sauce on this surface???? Sure I think it is tough..... for chassis maybe you would increase the flow (less down stop), softer spring, more rear toe, and maybe a bit more flex on the chassis by removing some upper deck screw connecting to the front and rear bulkhead. And use a thinner chassis?
Nope, i will bring the old Cyclone TC, so there's no another more flexible low nor upper deck to change.
But I am thinking of possibility of using piezo gyro, since the surface is going tough, anyway there's no rule to restricting using this kind of stuff.
How about if remove the spacers between chassis and pivot blocks.
Could somebody figure out if is worthy since change the length and angle of camber links, please?

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