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Old 02-28-2012, 01:09 PM
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:00 PM
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Now, if you want to talk boosted 17.5 12th scale, I have had my best luck with the Tekin ESC (non pro) and the Novak Ballistic 17.5. The Novak ran the coolest of all the ones I have tried (and I have a bunch of 17.5 BL motors). Silky can tell you that my boosted 17.5 wasn't that much slower than 13.5 the last time he saw me run my car.
Novak ballistic for sure is a very good motor for non-ramping... Everytime I tried a different motor and it's not working for me I'll throw in my ballistic and it's all good. I'm trying the new GTB2 w/ X-drive with ballistic 17.5 combo so far bench test sounds promising let's see how it performs on the track.
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Originally Posted by Jochim_18 View Post
Novak ballistic for sure is a very good motor for non-ramping... Everytime I tried a different motor and it's not working for me I'll throw in my ballistic and it's all good. I'm trying the new GTB2 w/ X-drive with ballistic 17.5 combo so far bench test sounds promising let's see how it performs on the track.
Let us know how the GTB x drive does. I am shopping around for new blinker esc.
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Let us know how the GTB x drive does. I am shopping around for new blinker esc.
A racer at my local carpet track is using a RevTech 17.5 with a Novak Edge and is right on the heels of the "fast guy" that thinks his is the shiznit. The "fast guy" is ticked because he has the latest/greatest in chassis, bodies, batteries, tires, motors, and ESC; spends countless hours practicing every week and is being seriously challenged by a guy that works long hours with little practice time, has store-bought batteries, tires, motors, and a cheap ESC. The main thing I see is pairing the right motor to ESC, make sure your chassis is not tweaked and set up properly, and choose the right tires for track traction (too much tire traction is not a good thing).
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Originally Posted by JLock View Post
A racer at my local carpet track is using a RevTech 17.5 with a Novak Edge and is right on the heels of the "fast guy" that thinks his is the shiznit. The "fast guy" is ticked because he has the latest/greatest in chassis, bodies, batteries, tires, motors, and ESC; spends countless hours practicing every week and is being seriously challenged by a guy that works long hours with little practice time, has store-bought batteries, tires, motors, and a cheap ESC. The main thing I see is pairing the right motor to ESC, make sure your chassis is not tweaked and set up properly, and choose the right tires for track traction (too much tire traction is not a good thing).
Those are pretty strong comments man.... and not necessarily very discrete either, for anyone that knows the track.
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Those are pretty strong comments man.... and not necessarily very discrete either, for anyone that knows the track.
Just telling a story and letting folks know that you don't necessarily have to have all the "latest/greatest" stuff to be competitive. Sometimes, it is the luck of the draw, sometimes it is just "lightning in a bottle", and sometimes it is what it is. Sorry that you seem to be a little offended but I am telling what I have observed.
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Just telling a story and letting folks know that you don't necessarily have to have all the "latest/greatest" stuff to be competitive. Sometimes, it is the luck of the draw, sometimes it is just "lightning in a bottle", and sometimes it is what it is. Sorry that you seem to be a little offended but I am telling what I have observed.
So true.
Driving, setup and luck.

Also, having a big can of Woopa$$ can help too. LOL!!
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Sure thing I'll keep you guys posted how's the new GTB2 w/ X-drive performs on the track against LRP, Tekin and VTX ESC.... I have been running LRP ver. 2 stock spec on blinky but due to lack of profile option you can't do much with the LRP ESC... What got me to get GTB2 is their is a lot of profile option without timing ..... Bench test was really promising damn motor screams when u give it a throttle input sounds like it's boosted hhhmmmm ..... I can't do that with my tekin and LRP on blinky mode...
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Originally Posted by Jochim_18 View Post
Sure thing I'll keep you guys posted how's the new GTB2 w/ X-drive performs on the track against LRP, Tekin and VTX ESC.... I have been running LRP ver. 2 stock spec on blinky but due to lack of profile option you can't do much with the LRP ESC... What got me to get GTB2 is their is a lot of profile option without timing ..... Bench test was really promising damn motor screams when u give it a throttle input sounds like it's boosted hhhmmmm ..... I can't do that with my tekin and LRP on blinky mode...
Any reports on the GTB2 in actual race conditions?
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Ok guys just finish racing today GTB2 with X-drive is spot on against LRP, VTX, tekin on 17.5 blinky... GTB2 is very smooth on throttle and definitely got the top end and punch off the corner.... Now I just need a new motor. I got out motored today everyone is running Revtech or reedy sonic... I got the Speedcontrol setup on profile 10 on drive parameters and motor Novak ballistic at full timing, FDR 3.5... What I also notice the motor runs cool without fade considering I was geared to the moon motor temp after 6 minutes is only at 120 degree like wow.... So I'm going to strap in a DOU 3 next race and play more with gearing...

I mainly focus on MOD racing so 17.5 I just kinda play with it.. But I'm going to gear up next race for 17.5 blinky and just prove a point what a real Sportmans ESC can do
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Originally Posted by Jochim_18 View Post
Ok guys just finish racing today GTB2 with X-drive is spot on against LRP, VTX, tekin on 17.5 blinky... GTB2 is very smooth on throttle and definitely got the top end and punch off the corner.... Now I just need a new motor. I got out motored today everyone is running Revtech or reedy sonic... I got the Speedcontrol setup on profile 10 on drive parameters and motor Novak ballistic at full timing, FDR 3.5... What I also notice the motor runs cool without fade considering I was geared to the moon motor temp after 6 minutes is only at 120 degree like wow.... So I'm going to strap in a DOU 3 next race and play more with gearing...

I mainly focus on MOD racing so 17.5 I just kinda play with it.. But I'm going to gear up next race for 17.5 blinky and just prove a point what a real Sportmans ESC can do
Do you think the GTB2 with x-drive will work with 12th scale in spec/blinky mod?
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any one know if the RevTech 17.5 and the Fantom Apex 17.5 are the same they sure looks identical???
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any one know if the RevTech 17.5 and the Fantom Apex 17.5 are the same they sure looks identical???
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any one know if the RevTech 17.5 and the Fantom Apex 17.5 are the same they sure looks identical???
Biggest difference will be the fact that for a few dollars extra, Fantom will dyno test the motor and put the numbers on the motor can for you. Biggest benefit with going thru Fantom comes when you want rotor strength tested. Rotors out of the factory have a tolerance range to be considered high rpm,broad band, or high torque. If for say in a 12.5 high torque version rotor you wanted the rotor be super high torque, you can ask Jeff at Fantom to sent you one that's on the higher side of torque numbers. However, if you buy thru regular sales chain its pot-luck on where your rotor strength falls inside the manufacturer's allowed tolerances.
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