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Old 02-02-2012, 12:58 AM   #1
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hi all i was wondering if there was any knowledge on SWEEP and SOREX tyres for asphalt racing in mod and 13.5 racing?

how do the two tyres compare with consistency and wear?
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I would definitely go for Sorex. IMHO, Sweep tires are very inconsistent. I usually race on asphalt, 4-6.5T motors
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I would definitely go for Sorex. IMHO, Sweep tires are very inconsistent. I usually race on asphalt, 4-6.5T motors
yea seems the guys at the local track are also into sorex tyres! was asking cause the sweep tyres from what i found are cheaper than the Sorex and perhaps there was an opportunity there.
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yea seems the guys at the local track are also into sorex tyres! was asking cause the sweep tyres from what i found are cheaper than the Sorex and perhaps there was an opportunity there.
Sorex is the go. I've tried sweep and sorex 36 and the sweeps don't have as much grip and don't last as long.
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cant comment on sweeps,have never used them but have used sorex for about 6 or so years & have found over the last 10 mths or so they dont seem to be as good as they used to be both for wear & grip(this is only my opinion of course)
have recently switched to ride tyres & so far have found them to be a very good all round tyre,also cheaper than sorex

this is using them on painted concrete surfaces outdoor ranging from med to high grip levels
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sounds like it worth giving it a bash, thanks prof
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cant comment on sweeps,have never used them but have used sorex for about 6 or so years & have found over the last 10 mths or so they dont seem to be as good as they used to be both for wear & grip(this is only my opinion of course)
have recently switched to ride tyres & so far have found them to be a very good all round tyre,also cheaper than sorex

this is using them on painted concrete surfaces outdoor ranging from med to high grip levels
I've tried the Ride RE36 Premounts, and I cant make up my mind on them. They were slippery to start with, and seem to take a long time to come up to temperature in a run. But they last so long! And as they get older they seem to get better...

Are you doing anything special for prep using the Rides? I'd like to swap for cost reasons.
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It depends.
Our national federation allows only 36 rated tires during its events.
This means that we have to use 36 tires during summer and winter.
Sorex 36 tires do not seem to work well in the winter while you can get a decent amount of grip with 36R sweep even in the winter.
Of course this a special case and normally one would never use 36r tires when it is 5degrees C outside but I thought I should share my experience.
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clean with simple green between each run & use warmers about 60deg for about 20mins prior to run
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sorex are good but dont last as long in mod then muchmore's or ride's the muchmore and ride tires are cheaper and are faster or just as fast
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Funny, as we have experience the opposite !

Sweep to be much more consistent and provide traction. Especially on colder days.

Last year we had any 36 tyre and still most people used the sweep.
I'm talking about the SW4-36R or SWP-36R with yellow green insert

Tracks are big, and usually not good traction although we raced same day with 1/8th formulas...

I did have some strange behavior on exp 36+ but it was bad batch
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no other choice ,
Sorex only !
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:41 AM   #13
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Sorex are the quicker of the two, but as an earlier poster mentioned, the quality may not be as good as they once were.

If I'm correct, I believe they are made close to where the Japanese Tsunami hit last year, so they have had to get them manufactured elsewhere - possibly the reason for the downturn in quality?

However, I may be wrong!!

But on any given day, the Sorex tyres will be quicker than Sweeps.
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last 2 weeks i have done some testing. S411, 3.5T with boost and turbo.

i have tried many tyre.
Edge 36R
Solaris M and H
sweep 36R
Sweep 40R
Sorex 36
Ride 36R

all tyres new, all tyres about 20 mins with warmers.
Edge gave me 16.9
Sweep 36R 16.5
Sweep 40R 16.2
Sorex 36 15.6

then following week
same track different conditions
Solaris M and H , i pulled the car off the track, or the marshall did.
Sweep 36R 17.2
Sweep 40R 16.9
Sorex 36 16.7
Ride 36R 16.2

for our track, we have used sorex 36 most of last year. this was our controlled tyre for the Nationals. they definaltey work well. however, our track, 3rd run, and they just cant cut it. they are slow. First run on sorex and i dont think you will find a better tyre.

Ride 36R
times i thaught were slow, 17.0 16.7 and i think after the 6th run with the tyres 16.2 . i did 8 runs with the rides and also had others use them to try.
and i got them back i think after 10 runs, and still was able to hit 16.5 . these tyres just last. they are slowish to start with, but after a couple of runs, they just get faster each time. so count up the costs. Sorex for the day maybe 3 sets of tyres. Rides, used them all day, and still can be used. i am sold on Rides.

but as far as sweep, i was very surprised that Sweep40R were faster then the 36R. again the sweep40R did last about 8 runs before they tapered off. but for Sorex and 3rd run thats it. is a huge cost to race at the pointy end. i think Rides are just as fast , specially using paragon Fx2.

just my findings over the last 2 weeks or so.
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last 2 weeks i have done some testing. S411, 3.5T with boost and turbo.

i have tried many tyre.
Edge 36R
Solaris M and H
sweep 36R
Sweep 40R
Sorex 36
Ride 36R

all tyres new, all tyres about 20 mins with warmers.
Edge gave me 16.9
Sweep 36R 16.5
Sweep 40R 16.2
Sorex 36 15.6

then following week
same track different conditions
Solaris M and H , i pulled the car off the track, or the marshall did.
Sweep 36R 17.2
Sweep 40R 16.9
Sorex 36 16.7
Ride 36R 16.2

for our track, we have used sorex 36 most of last year. this was our controlled tyre for the Nationals. they definaltey work well. however, our track, 3rd run, and they just cant cut it. they are slow. First run on sorex and i dont think you will find a better tyre.

Ride 36R
times i thaught were slow, 17.0 16.7 and i think after the 6th run with the tyres 16.2 . i did 8 runs with the rides and also had others use them to try.
and i got them back i think after 10 runs, and still was able to hit 16.5 . these tyres just last. they are slowish to start with, but after a couple of runs, they just get faster each time. so count up the costs. Sorex for the day maybe 3 sets of tyres. Rides, used them all day, and still can be used. i am sold on Rides.

but as far as sweep, i was very surprised that Sweep40R were faster then the 36R. again the sweep40R did last about 8 runs before they tapered off. but for Sorex and 3rd run thats it. is a huge cost to race at the pointy end. i think Rides are just as fast , specially using paragon Fx2.

just my findings over the last 2 weeks or so.
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