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Old 06-19-2002, 08:43 PM   #1
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Default Different between X-Ray T1 & Tamiya 414M2

Which is better? Is it true that 414M2 is more tunable than T1. As a result the 414M2 is more sensitive to drive than T1. Can anybody advise me as I can't decide which car to get.
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Two totally different cars dude. A few questions to ask yourself.

Can you get parts at the local racetrack(preferably) or Couriered(No good if you break at a race)

Price? Are you happy to spend $XXX on a car kit? Both aren't cheap.
Tamiya car may need Front diff(Expensive) and center pulley replacements if One way units aren't suitable at your track.
X-Ray benefits from an expensive chassis alignment setup system to extract the best from it's suspension.

Anyone else racing one locally?(setup tips, Possible spares in an emergency?)

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both cars are fast. fast as nuts.
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i'm fast too.
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fast as nuts.
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The T1 has a pivot ball suspension while the 414M2 doesn't.
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Old 06-19-2002, 10:17 PM   #7
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I would go for the 414M. I had one for a short period, and was really impressed with it. Quality is excellant, and though I barely ran the car, judging by the fact it is fresh off winning the worlds, it is most definately a capable car.

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a few days ago, i was deciding between a 414m and an x-ray. i went for the 414m because it shares some parts with the TA04, which is plentiful in our lhs. if not for this, i wouldve gone for the x-ray. i really prefer pivot ball suspension. get whichever one has parts support. you wont be disappointed with either car.
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the xray however has a nearly indestructable suspenion (since it came right off a nitro sedan). while it weighs more, but if you are running mod, then the extra durability for the club level racer evens it out, since you can finish a race.
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the xray however has a nearly indestructable suspenion (since it came right off a nitro sedan). while it weighs more, but if you are running mod, then the extra durability for the club level racer evens it out, since you can finish a race.
The Xray plastic is unique to Xray.....it is not taken from any other car......you are thinking about the 'C' car!!!!
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Which is better? Is it true that 414M2 is more tunable than T1. As a result the 414M2 is more sensitive to drive than T1. Can anybody advise me as I can't decide which car to get.
Both are very different....but in the same league!! you can't go wrong with either!!

The Xray is the more adjustable of the two (except for upper A arm positioning)....but sometimes having all this adjustment is not necessarily a good thing!!
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stormperson, the XRay might be heavier, but it's not heavy. Everyone I know with an XRay has had to add weight to make it legal.

dtm, you can change upper control arm positioning on the XRay. On the rear you can change the position on the hub, and if you buy the roll-center bridge you can move it on the chassis too. On the front, if you buy the accentric arm mounts you can raise, lower, and put angle into the arm (front higher/lower than back) on the chassis mount, but still nothing on the steering block.

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Tks guys for the feedback! Seen like both are a good cars. I won't go wrong with either car.
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stormperson, the XRay might be heavier, but it's not heavy. Everyone I know with an XRay has had to add weight to make it legal.

dtm, you can change upper control arm positioning on the XRay. On the rear you can change the position on the hub, and if you buy the roll-center bridge you can move it on the chassis too. On the front, if you buy the accentric arm mounts you can raise, lower, and put angle into the arm (front higher/lower than back) on the chassis mount, but still nothing on the steering block.
Yes I am aware of that...I have both options on my car! I was refering to 'more' adjustable on the 414!!
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A friend at the track just got his new 414M2 together, and ran it for the first time yesterday. I've got to admit, there's tons of adjustments to make! The car had lots of body roll, and was pretty narrow (186mm I think) but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

dtm, I see what you mean, the 414 and XRay might have the same adjustments, but the 414 has a wider range of adjustment.
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