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Old 03-25-2005, 12:59 PM   #76
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Acetone will work, but I'm not sure what condition it will leave the tires in, and it might affect the inserts too.

It usually takes a full day+ of sitting partially submerged in Acetone for the glue to melt off. It doesn't have to be soaking in it, the fumes do most of the work. It does make a good cleaner though.

The rims I've done this to have been fine, but I've always cut the tires off before doing it.

Let us know how it goes, cause I have a few sets with bad inserts and good tires I'd like to recover too.

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Thanks Mike-I may just try it. If it saves me $40 bucks-I'll be happy.

I better put the disclaimer-Acetone is a known carcinogen and I am in no way advocating its use for this is purpose.
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Old 03-25-2005, 01:51 PM   #78
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@Ray:

In Europe, rubber has been the way to go, I have only tested foams twice in my career So, what we've found out for any carpet, sorex 28-36 is the fastest tires justabout everywhere, and by far the easiest to drive.

Combined with the famous Blue/Blue-yellow JB Foams you can't go wrong. Preferably on Orion/JB hard wheels, but also Nosram/LRP Vtec and Xray rims are very good.

To get the tires off the rims, use a glassjar with acetone in the bottom. We used Schumacher springs in the bottom to work as a grate to keep the wheels up... The fumes will do their work, and everything should be loose without a problem. I'm not exactly sure how the tires will react, since we've only done this to save the rims, but you can be the test bunny can't you?

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In Europe, rubber has been the way to go, I have only tested foams twice in my career So, what we've found out for any carpet, sorex 28-36 is the fastest tires justabout everywhere, and by far the easiest to drive.

Combined with the famous Blue/Blue-yellow JB Foams you can't go wrong. Preferably on Orion/JB hard wheels, but also Nosram/LRP Vtec and Xray rims are very good.

To get the tires off the rims, use a glassjar with acetone in the bottom. We used Schumacher springs in the bottom to work as a grate to keep the wheels up... The fumes will do their work, and everything should be loose without a problem. I'm not exactly sure how the tires will react, since we've only done this to save the rims, but you can be the test bunny can't you?

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Darn-I dont have any Schumacher springs-I cannot do it.....j/k

Thanks-I sure hope the tires come out of this test ok-but if I just save the rims I guess that'll be okay too..
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:05 PM   #80
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I think if you balance your tires, time your run, take the lead tape out, time your run, you will see almost no change in lap times.

You could balance your wheels ... but as soon as you hit a barrier and warp those rims it would make it much worse than if you hadn't balanced the tires and warped the rims.

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@Ray: I'm sure you can figure it out
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boiling the tires and rim will save the rim about 100%. never heard it fail, unless you count the people who cant seem to get the boiling to separate the CA but the tire was fine when i did it.
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Hey-big news-only to me of course-I am starting to get the hang of gluing these things together. But is it normal to CA your finger and the rubber band to the tire?
I'll try that boiling trick right now.

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Old 03-28-2005, 08:53 AM   #84
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Hey guys,

Just fyi-the white plastic dish rim from Tamiya can NOT be treated to the acetone trick. After only 30 minutes the rim had started to melt. IT was NOT submerged in the Acetone-just sitting above it letting the gases do the work..

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There are generally 2 kinds of rims. ABS and Nylon. ABS will melt in acetone or if boiled. Nylon is impervious to Acetone or can be boild but Acetone works best.

ABS Rims:

Tamiya
Take Off CS
Take Off RP
Some Yokomo
Sorex

Nylon:

All Proline
All Schumacher
Some Yokomo
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Thanks Adrian!!
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whoops. boiling isnt failproof after all. well for the rim. the tire is fine. my cs27 rims kinda deformed. its an ovalish shape now. might be from the boiling might be because i cooled it too fast after i dunno. but the rims are about useless now. might be able to use it for parking lot bashing but itll wobble alot i think.
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Are the Xray Sunburst wheels ABS or Nylon? The ones that come with the FT 04?


Seem to be hard to come by so, I'd like to be able to reuse them if at all possible.


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Quote:
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There are generally 2 kinds of rims. ABS and Nylon. ABS will melt in acetone or if boiled. Nylon is impervious to Acetone or can be boild but Acetone works best.

ABS Rims:

Tamiya
Take Off CS
Take Off RP
Some Yokomo
Sorex

Nylon:

All Proline
All Schumacher
Some Yokomo
Echo MDX
Are both type of rims the same in terms of durability? How good does it hold its shape after several crashes?
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Quick question, what is the current hot ticket for traction compound for rubber tires on asphalt? what are you guys doing in between races?

Personally, I clean the tires with Simple Green, wipe them clean and then treat with WD40 and try and expose the tires to sunlight to heat them, now I have a set of warmers and will use them....

Anybody else care to share what they are doing / using???
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