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Old 01-06-2005, 02:19 AM   #31
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Korey, you da man!! Great info here. Now I know why you are so fast! On the topic of more rotating mass, couldn't you just dial in a little roll into your throttle trim?


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Old 01-06-2005, 07:25 AM   #32
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I know nothing-NAAAHTING about rubber tires so I was hoping for a little help here at my favorite info joint-RCTech!!. I suppose I am not the only one ignorant in the way of the mysterious round back rubbery things-so anyone else post your questions here!!! I need to learn about inserts, insert shape, airgap and offsets and all that stuff a foam tire guy wouldnt know and has zero ability to try on a track. I'll make this easy to start with a few specific questions.

1-On Ozite-which has more grip-soft or hard insert. Is it more side bite-forward traction or both?

2-Air-gap-how do you use it to your advantage on Ozite? How do you increase or decrease it.

3-Concerning air-gap-what do you feel on the track that tells you you need more or less?

I am just getting started!! Thanks for any help!!

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Old 01-06-2005, 09:55 AM   #33
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For the TC3, I had good luck running Barry Baker's Reedy Race of Asia setup with Cs27s. The carpet was new and barely had a groove, but the car felt great.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:57 PM   #34
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Hmmm, I remember I tried that, but I didn't like it. It seemed different, but it could just be a mental thing. I usually use trailing throttle (dont let off all the way) in corners...... The feels diff too.... everything feels different lol.

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Old 01-19-2005, 01:45 PM   #35
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I'm back!!

So-I finally tried rubber tires on carpet (F201 with type A tires and I treated them with Tire TWeak).

Very interesting-tires need to warm-up befre they work welll. They are also REALLY loose when you get even a little out of the groove.

So heres my new battery of questions-again for me its Ozite!!

Can someone name the top two tire sauces for Ozite and maybe a brief on when one is better than another?

Also-where to mail order the stuff!!

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Tq blue, and paragon work well on the rug. They feel pretty close to the same for me on rubber/carpet. Tire tweak actually keeps tires cooler......

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Old 01-19-2005, 05:01 PM   #37
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Ray-I will have to disagree with Korey just because I want to lol
TQ Blu is actually a conditioner and really softens the rubber, you will wear the tire out faster using this. I have been using TQ Mod(purple can) on rubber tires for the longest time.
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Old 01-19-2005, 05:02 PM   #38
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I agree, TQ Purple is awesome on rubber tires. Works good on foams too...
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MPH Products T-Rx. Works awesome on Tamiya A-Compound tires. You can order it thru Billy @ B&T Batteries.
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so are you guys just throwing on the additive or are you cleaning the rubber first? if so, with what?
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My rubber tire treatment-
-Clean with 100 percent denatured alchohol
- Wait until 10 min before race, then sauce as needed
- wipe 1 minute before you hit the track to give time to air dry and let the tire tack up
- repeat for next round
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nice!. thanks for that
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The handout tire sauce at Novak was that Jack the gripper stuff from Corally was pretty nice to plus zero odor so your car doesn't stink to high heaven on the ride home.
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Wow-thanks for the quick responses. I better get down stairs and clean off the tires on the F1 car.
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HI its me again-the big dummy.

Well-heres the deal. I have Tamiya ype A tires with hard Tamiya inserts. Quite a bit of airgap. Tires feel a bit inconsistent-like squirmy on Ozite. A fuller insert may be better I think.

Heres the problem-I dont have access to any inserts locally-but I do have these other tires (all barely used a few years ago-but bagged and still feel good) that have a med-firm full insert in them. Do any of you experts know which ones are closest to a Tamiya type a?


Yokomo 138g
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This way I can test to see if a full/firm insert is what I should put in my next set of Tamiya tires.

THANKS!!!!
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