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Old 06-09-2005, 12:21 PM   #136
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Sorry...I forgot you are from Carpetland. I have the opposite problem you have. I only run Foam once a year at the Snowbirds...lol!

If you have to run Tamiya tires at TamNats you might as well run only Tam tires. For Sedans I hear the Type A is best.
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. For daytime asphalt racing that is usually the Take Off CS27GL (all weather), Sorex 36R(hot weather) or the new Take Off RP30GL (warm weather) or RP36GL (hot weather).



Paragon GFX cold to cool weather and at night
Paragon FXII or Niftech for cool to warm weather
50/50 mix of FXII and Tire Tweak when its hot.
Straight Tire Tweak when it Blazing hot


Some great info here Thanks alot. i have a few questions about what aprox is your track temp and/or air temp at each level you state , your idea of cool and mine can be way different an actual temp range to go by would help for track temp and/or air temp. track temp would be best as sun and everything else plays into it and just because the air is XXtemp doesnt make the track the same for that air temp all the time.
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Sorry...I forgot you are from Carpetland. I have the opposite problem you have. I only run Foam once a year at the Snowbirds...lol!

If you have to run Tamiya tires at TamNats you might as well run only Tam tires. For Sedans I hear the Type A is best.
I have yet to run carpet. Vegas will be my first time! I'm running rubber classes though. No foamies for me.
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Hi Guys,

Our local track is very particular since the asphalt is quite coarse with big gaps in between the stones and its usually also dusty, any ideas of what traction compounds can be used in such a situation.

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Generally if it's dusty any traction compound I've tried will just pick up the dust onto the tire... In paking lots I usually just run em dry and try to hang on for the first couple of turns.

Speaking of rubber on Carpet what are some good combos? I know up in Stockton they've had good results with pit 27s with hpi green inserts (think I got that right). I ran TakeOff CS27Ws and they had too much bite after the 3 minute mark...
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Some great info here Thanks alot. i have a few questions about what aprox is your track temp and/or air temp at each level you state , your idea of cool and mine can be way different an actual temp range to go by would help for track temp and/or air temp. track temp would be best as sun and everything else plays into it and just because the air is XXtemp doesnt make the track the same for that air temp all the time.

We are down and florida for us a cool asphalt temp usually 110 to 120 after that generally we see temps upto 150! We get 80 deg sometimes maybe 6 days out of the year when ambient temps are in the mid 60's to mid 70's.
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Our local track is very particular since the asphalt is quite coarse with big gaps in between the stones and its usually also dusty, any ideas of what traction compounds can be used in such a situation.

Bye for now.
I'd try wd-40.
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If the spool monster ate it I would take a diff and lock it down! I have run there and you do need a spool and if not atleast a diff before a oneway.
There are 2to3 areas where you to slow down too much and if you want to pass someone you'll need brakes there, especially the hair pin at the end of the straight away and the left hander after the chicane section!

Lock that diff dude!
Thanks for the input. I'm also one of these guys who's focusing on Tamiya racing, so that's why I mentioned the spool monster (although now Tamiya makes a spool for some of its cars, I think). Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck locking down the front diff on my TB-02, as the diff screws are kind of weak and tend to shear. I'll have to give it another try and/or use a thicker diff lube.

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Thanks for the input. I'm also one of these guys who's focusing on Tamiya racing, so that's why I mentioned the spool monster (although now Tamiya makes a spool for some of its cars, I think). Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck locking down the front diff on my TB-02, as the diff screws are kind of weak and tend to shear. I'll have to give it another try and/or use a thicker diff lube.

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Andy a quick spool config is take all the diff balls out! clean all the grease off aswell as the diffrings. Take a header card from say a trinity brush package. Glue them to the diff rings tighten the screw down all the way and back it out 1/8 to 1/4 turn so there is less stress on the diff screw. Trust me it works!!
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Generally if it's dusty any traction compound I've tried will just pick up the dust onto the tire... In paking lots I usually just run em dry and try to hang on for the first couple of turns.

Speaking of rubber on Carpet what are some good combos? I know up in Stockton they've had good results with pit 27s with hpi green inserts (think I got that right). I ran TakeOff CS27Ws and they had too much bite after the 3 minute mark...
tony... i ran the CS27Ws all around up in gilroy with TQ orange as the traction compound. i left the sauce on there way too long (about 4-5mins) and my car was on two wheels in some of the corners. someone recommended running a bead of glue on the side (to reduce the side bite). and wiping off the TQ orange after 2-3 mins of sitting on the tires.

my car was fine for the quals.. but for the mains.. traction came up like a *&%@*#%

id like to try sorex 28s next time im up there.. but i do like the ease of use with the preglued CS27s
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Andy a quick spool config is take all the diff balls out! clean all the grease off aswell as the diffrings. Take a header card from say a trinity brush package. Glue them to the diff rings tighten the screw down all the way and back it out 1/8 to 1/4 turn so there is less stress on the diff screw. Trust me it works!!
Cool. I will try it. Thanks for your help.

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Adrian-The tire tweek you are talking about, do they still sell that? For some reason I thought they stopped selling it or something. Is the tire tweek 2000 the same stuff?
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We are down and florida for us a cool asphalt temp usually 110 to 120 after that generally we see temps upto 150! We get 80 deg sometimes maybe 6 days out of the year when ambient temps are in the mid 60's to mid 70's.

Hi thanks for the info i hope that AdrianM can confirm that is what he class's as the temps he put down ,as this is what i mean calling it warm and stuff can get fuzzy from one person to another.

I live in canada i call those temps wicked hot
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Adrian-The tire tweek you are talking about, do they still sell that? For some reason I thought they stopped selling it or something. Is the tire tweek 2000 the same stuff?
Trinity still sells it. Its is quite popular for rubber tires outdoors. Dont forget to get a bottle of buggy grip at the same time. That gets rid of the greasiness of the Tweak during the first few laps.

I race with SpeedXL all the time. His temp ranges are right on. Keep in mind that the CS27 has a huge temp range. We have used it on 60deg F (Reedy Race 2003) to 160 Deg F tracks (Worlds Warm Up 2004) with great results.

I run CS22's when the air temp and track temp are about equal, i.e. at night, and less than 80 Deg F.
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