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Old 01-02-2005, 05:40 AM   #1
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Default 415 or evo 4 ?

i know people hate these questions but i just wanted to know which one of these has less design flaws

also which one needs more hop ups out of the box?

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If you get the 415ms you'll need less hop ups than if you get the evo4, people have said the evo4 has a problem with tweak but i don't know anything, i don't have a tamiya (yet ) .

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Old 01-02-2005, 05:46 AM   #3
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hehe thats one thing learnt thanks chazzz

also chazz whats the difference with trf 415 and 415ms?
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Evo4 or 415 hmmmmmmmmz

415 415 415 415 415 415 415 415 415
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Old 01-02-2005, 05:50 AM   #5
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415ms has lightweight suspension on it as standard with, low friction belts, alum shocks, thiner chassis (2.6mm or summit) and new bulkheads, probably lots more things and the 415 is just standard without the lightweight suspension and alum shocks etc.

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415ms has lightweight suspension on it as standard with, low friction belts, alum shocks, thiner chassis (2.6mm or summit) and new bulkheads, probably lots more things and the 415 is just standard without the lightweight suspension and alum shocks etc.

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oh i guess i dont need all that lol! standard already cost 420 USD or maybe thats the ms edition... but thanks for the input!
and i assume the shock bodies are plastic threaded ones ya?
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I don't know about the shocks but the ms from speedtech is $469.99 (that includes ti screw set), the std 415 is something like $350 and the evo 4 is $339.99 from speedtech.

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oh i guess i dont need all that lol! standard already cost 420 USD or maybe thats the ms edition... but thanks for the input!
and i assume the shock bodies are plastic threaded ones ya?
Not at all they all have the same shocks, which are alloy/threaded/fluorine coated.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:36 AM   #9
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Evo4 or 415?

whats the comparison?

well the 415ms and Evo4 use exactly the same suspension (the lwt arm set) which are different to the std 415 (hard TA04 arms etc). Thats really the biggest difference (bar the obvious shaft v belt ).

Personally I would say that if you run on carpet, go for the std 415, with usual suspension, whereas if outdoor try an MS.

Also, on a personal note the evo4 does seem to be a little underspeced, it come with steel turnbuckles as one example. With the 415, all of that is already upgraded, plus you get bragging rights on it being a world champ winning car....

check out both the evo4 and 415 threads on here, plently of people who'll be willing to give their opinions, probably more qualified than mine, as some will have run both.

Ultimately though, I would say it comes down to what you'd prefer, Belt or Shaft?

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i have both and i cant pick which one i like best, so just get both like me
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Old 01-02-2005, 04:10 PM   #11
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HaHa im not rich to get both! thats why im getting abit of a headache choosing! im so new to EP.

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i actually prefer shaft driven in my nitro cars! i feel as if it has more torque out of the corners. but it seems like the evo 4 needs a few hop ups to be more reliable. and the 415 i reakon would give me less hassles as i wouldnt think i need any hop ups out of the box and thats with the std kit.

i've tried reading both forums as well but man it gets tiring after 10 pages each! haha.

thanks for all input so far

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Just be prepared to replace the hub bearings regularly...

My rear ones blew after one race... (evo IV)

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Old 01-02-2005, 05:23 PM   #14
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i've never had any problems with my evo4, I would swear by it, granted I don't have a 415, but I have plenty of friends that have the 415 and evo 4, they both work well, the general opinion between my friends is that the 415 appears to be more consistent where the evo can set some rocket ship laps, but you have to be able to drive it that fast every lap. This would apepar to be driving style, but we have all driven the cars between us and get the same results. Both cars respond well to set up changes, however, I belive the 415 more so than the Evo (again, told from a reliable source, not myself, so take it as hearsay)

As for tweaks, never tweaked my car and the ball bearings are some of the best i've ever used, haven't wrecked on yet, and I've never had a more free drivetrain. The only problem i've had with the evo is the plastic drive cups, I've used the retainer ring trick to fix that or just grab some alloy ones.

Very fast car, but can be very twitcy if now set up right. I had an obvious attraction to the shaft drive, but it will be personal opinoin and price that gets u in the end.

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i'd have to agree with hawker. my first TC was an EVO III SE so I had to buy the EVO IV when it came out. My buddy has both and he likes the 415 better, but he hasn't ran the 4 half as much as the 415.

since i was already familiar with the shaft, i didn't want to muck with belts. if for some strange reason i have $500 sitting around, i would buy the 415 too.

hope that makes the muddy water more muddy!!!
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