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Old 01-22-2012, 01:20 AM   #106
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Buffff Very good, i'm waiting for this cups, i prefer without blades, for me is better, nowadays i'm testing tune-up stell cups without blades and the car is more precise in front and more direct, but depence the blade as Columbia say is posible a good combination.

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Old 01-22-2012, 04:12 AM   #107
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I would suggest without blades.

IMO blades in the front of the car tend to reduce steering and cornerspeed. Take a look at all the top drivers from the euros and worlds, I would be very suprised if you found any of them running blades.

What material are the XRAY spool cups? And do they use blades?

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Old 01-22-2012, 05:32 PM   #108
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I like the idea of building them to use blades that are more durable.
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:40 PM   #109
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I am interested in testing parts for the xray t3 2012 i do extensive testing for my current sponsors
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:49 PM   #110
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I would suggest without blades.

IMO blades in the front of the car tend to reduce steering and cornerspeed. Take a look at all the top drivers from the euros and worlds, I would be very suprised if you found any of them running blades.

What material are the XRAY spool cups? And do they use blades?

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The "lightweight" outdrives from XRAY use blades, but the stock composite ones do not, they are much like the Tamiya drive cups.
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I would say, why not offer both?
My personal feeling is that for stock classes, with blades would be fine, but with a modified motors, without would be best, as the blades simply are not strong enough. Making the fit nice and tight should avoid any wear
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I would say, why not offer both?
My personal feeling is that for stock classes, with blades would be fine, but with a modified motors, without would be best, as the blades simply are not strong enough. Making the fit nice and tight should avoid any wear
that's what we decided to do, we will make both. we might make our own blades as well,possibly make a more durable one.
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:54 AM   #113
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Xray uses composite spool outdrives.
I tend to wear these out in about 4-5 days at the track (should be 40-50 runs in total) with a modified motor.
With a stock motor they last for a long time.
Now they have come out with new lightened spool steel outdrives which use blades.
My guess is if you made metal outdrives then I would prefer with blades since metal to metal contact would wear out both the driveshaft pins and outdrives.
If it is composite then without is preferred.
I have not tried to use the steel ones yet so can't speak of experience and also I should probably stop now since I don't run a Tamiya
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The "lightweight" outdrives from XRAY use blades, but the stock composite ones do not, they are much like the Tamiya drive cups.
Sorry I meant what material are the R1 Wurks Xray spool outdrives.

I have tested all of the XRAY outdrives and am consistently faster with the kit composite ones. I very much doubt this is down to weight either as the steel and aluminium options are only 2-3 grams heavier
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Sorry I meant what material are the R1 Wurks Xray spool outdrives.

R1s are aluminum.


I have tested all of the XRAY outdrives and am consistently faster with the kit composite ones. I very much doubt this is down to weight either as the steel and aluminium options are only 2-3 grams heavier
I think I need you to test a couple of things for us Phil. I,ve been testing with a few guys running 17.5 & 13.5 non boost & found that the 2-3 grams difference in weight makes 2/10ths a lap difference. But we have yet to test this on mod.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:15 AM   #116
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Hi
I'm interested To test anything for Xray t3'11
I run modified boosted class in Malaysia and Brunei
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all beta testers paid this weekend will ship out today.

Btw- please make sure to log your lap times before & after changing out to R1 parts.

thanks!

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all beta testers paid this weekend will ship out today.

Btw- please make sure to log your lap times before & after changing out to R1 parts.

thanks!

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Will do. Thanks Steve!
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are there any other specific requirements that you need to know when we start to use the parts?

or just the difference in lap times? as stated above
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are there any other specific requirements that you need to know when we start to use the parts?

or just the difference in lap times? as stated above
We are working on a small list of things that we would like to get feedback on. I'll email this to all in the morning.
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