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Old 11-09-2005, 02:42 PM   #16
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Yeh I had this happen last week to my 1/12th. It was shocking for how light the hit was.

I am also going to look at the snap ring option down the road. I sent an email to the support address at Orion so hopefully this gets taken care of, it seems Orion is good at supporting this kind of failure.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:51 PM   #17
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Checkpoint uses a bearing retainer




You may be able to use these on the Orion motors. Or you could just buy a Checkpoint
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:53 PM   #18
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is the revolution HARA edition motor pretty good?
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:24 PM   #19
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Why would you buy a slower motor just for the snap ring?

I always vote innovation over immitation.
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Why would you buy a slower motor just for the snap ring?

I always vote innovation over immitation.
Have you ever run a Checkpoint motor? I don't think you've ever seen a Checkpoint up close if you think these motors aren't innovative.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:28 PM   #21
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Ya, when I got my 19T V2 motor, I took it to a race and a light crash made the ball bearing came out and the brush tube was messed. I sent it back to Peak and they gave me a new one.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:34 PM   #22
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Have you ever run a Checkpoint motor? I don't think you've ever seen a Checkpoint up close if you think these motors aren't innovative.
From just looking at them, I have to say theres somethings I do like off the bat. 1. Solder tabs that wont require me to re-wire a 1/12th when moving between a normal motor and a V2. 2. bearing spring clip.

beyond that I would think that the surface area of the brushes would be less for contact on the comm due to the 90Deg orientation to the Comm.
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But you get more punch with these motors than most V2 motors. One thing that you can't see from those shots but if you go to the website you'll see that the brushes are keyed in place. They have a ridge on the bottom side and a groove in the brush tube. This keeps the brushed perfectly in line and won't allow any shifting of brushes. And I get more brush life and better comm wear with these than I ever did with a V2.
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Have you ever run a Checkpoint motor? I don't think you've ever seen a Checkpoint up close if you think these motors aren't innovative.
You do know what innovative means right?

innovation
n 1: a creation (a new device or process) resulting from study and experimentation [syn: invention] 2: the creation of something in the mind [syn: invention, excogitation, conception, design] 3: the act of starting something for the first time; introducing something new; "she looked forward to her initiation as an adult"; "the foundation of a new scientific society"; "he regards the fork as a modern introduction" [syn: initiation, founding, foundation, institution, origination, creation, introduction, instauration]

Trust me I know a lot about both motors, and yes I have run both the Revolution and the the immitator.

The checkpoint did not provide anything the Orion motor did not previousely provide infact, I have seen drawings protoypes of early endbells where the Rev even had a screw on brush perch which later was scrapped as inefficient. The only thing not copied was the fact that the Checkpoint does not have the added benefit of an angled brush tube something Orion has patents on, though from what I understand Orion also has patents on several other aspects of the cp motor which haven't surfaced yet.
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I've run both and I can say that nothing I've ever run (Not even hand tuned V2's) can hold a candle to the off the shelf Checkpoints I've run. Everyone I know who's run a Checkpoint has felt the same way as well.
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I really wasn't trying to start a V2 vs CP argument here. I hate X vs. Y threads. All I was originally saying was that the bearing problem is one I've seen many times on the V2's (Has happened to me as well) and I was showing what Checkpoint has done to counter that. Every problem I've ever come across with the V2 motors, the Checkpoint has fixed.
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Checkpoint uses a bearing retainer




You may be able to use these on the Orion motors. Or you could just buy a Checkpoint
I had the bearing come out of my Checkpoint motor just like the Orion motors. Even with the improved retention device. The trick is not to hit anything or get hit!
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Well, sometimes you can't be helped when people crash into you during a race.
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people at my track with the V2's and 1/12 scale have been using CA glue or locktight around the outter rim on the bearing
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Yeh I was thinking a dab of JB weld or something would do it. It does suck that for a motor that retails for 90$, that you would need to hack together some solution to keep the bearing in the motor on pan cars.
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