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Old 05-06-2012, 05:45 PM   #421
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Yesterday we nearly had a rain out but thankfully got a lot of running in under the lights at Jackson RC. My car is coming around in 13.5 blinky. Next week I'll race 17.5 blinky with both my Photon and EX back to back in hopes of proving how good my current setup is.
How much faster are the laps with the 13.5 over the 17.5 car? Thanks
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How much faster are the laps with the 13.5 over the 17.5 car? Thanks
it depends upon tires...
i think at last year's nats the difference was nearly 1s at our track.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:14 PM   #423
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Posted my fastest setup from yesterday.
http://racerlog.com/wiki/T.O.P._Photon_EX#Setups

Yesterday I think I really learned the impact that rear width makes, above and beyond rear toe. When I went from RF 1.0/RR 3.0 to RF 0.5/RR 2.0 the car really woke up, more than any wheelbase change. Additionally when I went to RF 0.0/RR 2.0 the car was as loose, or even looser although I had more rear toe. I think I'm going to run RF 0.5/RR 2.5 to start next week along w/ a longer rear wheelbase.
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How much faster are the laps with the 13.5 over the 17.5 car? Thanks
haywood here are the top three zults from last years roar nats @ jackson on the same tire laps-time-hot lap . . .like mike said about 1 sec faster and 1 lap faster over the 6 min run . . .

17.5 Blinky A1
Scooby 23 6:11.67 15.75
Cuffs 23 6:11.95 15.78
DJ 23 6:12.74 15.80

13.5 Blinky
Hohwart 24 6:06 14.9
Tessman 24 6:08 15.1
Herbert 24 6:08 15.0

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Lemiuex 25 6:06.3 14.6
Hohwart 25 6:06.7 14.59
Tessman 25 6:09.7 14.65
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A friend of mine has issues with the shock's spring adgusting nut. It has big play and after a run it changes position!! He tried to force it with hand with same effect. That is the case with 2 of his shocks!

Any ideas what might be the problem?
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A friend of mine has issues with the shock's spring adgusting nut. It has big play and after a run it changes position!! He tried to force it with hand with same effect. That is the case with 2 of his shocks!

Any ideas what might be the problem?
Have to ask, does he have the oring installed correctly into the collar? (I assume this is what you mean by the shock spring adjusting nut).
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Yes, this is what I'm talking about. Are many ways to install them?!
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Nick - did he install the oring in the collar?
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Yes, this is what I'm talking about. Are many ways to install them?!
some people i know didnt put them inside the collar the first time.
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some people i know didnt put them inside the collar the first time.
On the scale of wrenching fails, I've seen a lot worse from you! I do show up to races with a setup board and tools
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some people i know didnt put them inside the collar the first time.
+1 I did that the first time I built xray shocks when I was a noob.
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A friend of mine has issues with the shock's spring adgusting nut. It has big play and after a run it changes position!! He tried to force it with hand with same effect. That is the case with 2 of his shocks!

Any ideas what might be the problem?
me too, I change spring adgusting...
the problem, for mè, is bad anodizing...

you can try with thread lock...small amount...
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I have good feeling with Gear Diff no problem, only small leak from lateral o-ring
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Luppi - what setup did you apply? Kit instructions? The EJ setup within the instructions?

can u elaborate on what you are planning to try next? Are you running the aluminum v2 steering blocks?
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Luppi - what setup did you apply? Kit instructions? The EJ setup within the instructions?
similar kit setup, only difference is 400 cps oil with 306 spring front and rear, gear diff 1000 cps
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can u elaborate on what you are planning to try next? Are you running the aluminum v2 steering blocks?
unfortunately I haven't V2 steering blocks, in italy we haven't yet!
planning to try a setup more similar to "old" Photon: 3mm ackerman, long links front and rear, front arms with 1FF 0FR, 1mm rollcentre RF RR, gear diff 2000 cps
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Nick - did he install the oring in the collar?
yes told me he did
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