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Old 03-13-2012, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ThunderPowerRC View Post
FYI- I was told the battery voltage has been changed starting this race. It is back to 1S/4.20 and 2S/8.40 +/-.02per cell. No more 4.25 and 8.50.
Any official word on this?

This is sure late notice for such a change...
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Originally Posted by JamesL_71 View Post
Any official word on this?

This is sure late notice for such a change...
Coppied from the ROAR Facebook page, Just wanted those who do not use facebook to see it






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The ROAR Executive Committee is currently reconsidering raising the maximum battery voltage level to 8.5v for a 2S pack and 4.25 for a 1S pack.

The original intent of raising the level was, when charging up to a peak of 8.4v, some lesser quality chargers were not stopping at exactly 8.4 volts, but instead going slightly over. This was causing some disqualifications and ROAR believes that in some cases, it was genuine error on the part of the charger. So, raising the voltage level to 8.5 volts and 4.25 volts respectively, was done to allow for a greater margin of error even when legitimately charging to the proper peak voltage often fixed by the charger. Well, under the heading of no good deed goes unpunished, too many racers were changing the mode of the chargers re-setting the peak voltage right up to 8.5v, and this is dangerous. Not only are they using modes that are NOT designed for LiPo batteries, the charger is unable to detect the peak in that mode, and it has resulted in increased battery fires. This has created a safety issue, which cannot be tolerated.

So, ROAR will consider lowering the peak voltage back down to its original level, consistent with IFMAR and other organizations. The racers will have to go back to the old voltage level and MUST charge in the appropriate mode or risk ejection from the event.

The above was pulled from the ROAR forum. It doesnt appear it was official and it was never posted on ROAR's website....but that dont really mean anything.

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If that is the track I am really glad I signed up for MOD!
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Originally Posted by EAMotorsports View Post
Coppied from the ROAR Facebook page, Just wanted those who do not use facebook to see it






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The ROAR Executive Committee is currently reconsidering raising the maximum battery voltage level to 8.5v for a 2S pack and 4.25 for a 1S pack.

The original intent of raising the level was, when charging up to a peak of 8.4v, some lesser quality chargers were not stopping at exactly 8.4 volts, but instead going slightly over. This was causing some disqualifications and ROAR believes that in some cases, it was genuine error on the part of the charger. So, raising the voltage level to 8.5 volts and 4.25 volts respectively, was done to allow for a greater margin of error even when legitimately charging to the proper peak voltage often fixed by the charger. Well, under the heading of no good deed goes unpunished, too many racers were changing the mode of the chargers re-setting the peak voltage right up to 8.5v, and this is dangerous. Not only are they using modes that are NOT designed for LiPo batteries, the charger is unable to detect the peak in that mode, and it has resulted in increased battery fires. This has created a safety issue, which cannot be tolerated.

So, ROAR will consider lowering the peak voltage back down to its original level, consistent with IFMAR and other organizations. The racers will have to go back to the old voltage level and MUST charge in the appropriate mode or risk ejection from the event.

The above was pulled from the ROAR forum. It doesnt appear it was official and it was never posted on ROAR's website....but that dont really mean anything.

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Awesome, lets keep changing more rules every 6 months so we lose more racers.

Just because there are rules organizations does not mean the rules need to be changed all the time.
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Originally Posted by ERTRACHTER View Post
If that is the track I am really glad I signed up for MOD!
ah crap one more to push me back to the "B"
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Originally Posted by JamesL_71 View Post
Any official word on this?

This is sure late notice for such a change...
As EA posted this has been up on the facebook and ROAR public discussion thread since Feb 22. It shouldn't be that big of deal.
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yes it is a big deal. changing rules that most have been running for the last year 1 month before the race does not allow for enough time of desiminaiton to the racers.

it's like the body rule last year. and I will have my electrical tape and red ducktape again just incase I have to have fix the apperance package on my rc car bodies. I'm still not getting headlights for my 12th scale in the package with a new body. and that's been a roar rule since last July.

I just got my pulsar 3 to be 8.49 max and now I need to reset it. it took a month of fussing with it to get it there. and I'm not sure what my thunderpower reads as it was always under 8.50 for sure. I might have to buy a new charger to get to run.
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Originally Posted by ThunderPowerRC View Post
As EA posted this has been up on the facebook and ROAR public discussion thread since Feb 22. It shouldn't be that big of deal.
roar member on and off since 1987 and I don't have facebook never got a rule book the last 2 years. and I barely rarely get on the roar forum.
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Originally Posted by chicky03 View Post
so my question is

12.2.8 Any driver who finishes in the top 20% (rounded up) of any Modified National will be barred from entering any Stock National class for the next year.

Does Modified national mean just ROAR or snowbirds, iic etc?

12.2.9 Any Stock National Champion may not compete in any ROAR stock National class for a period of 5 years. Vehicle genre discipline specific. For example, off road stock buggy national champ may not run off road stock truck but he/she may participate in on road stock nationals the next year.

Also the same question does stock champion mean just ROAR or Snowbirds, iic etc?
Well since most roar races only have 10-20 entries in mod at most that only excludes 2-4 drivers
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Would someone be kind enough to let me use their tire truer for WGT tires? I don't want to pack mine up for one class.

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Originally Posted by fred kellner View Post
Would someone be kind enough to let me use their tire truer for WGT tires? I don't want to pack mine up for one class.

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I don't have a mandrel for them, but I have a tire truer you can use.

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Originally Posted by 303slowdown View Post
I thought this was onroad not oval
If anyone else has negative comments, you guys are more than welcome to stay home.

Everyone else, I am sure you will love the track, facility, and fun racing.
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Layout is bad to the bone Chris! It will allow for the mod cars to actually open up and go fast
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I am not sure this was asked or covered. Do we need to bring a power supply for truing tires or is there a tire truing station with one already? Just trying to save some weight.
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Originally Posted by chicky03 View Post
I am not sure this was asked or covered. Do we need to bring a power supply for truing tires or is there a tire truing station with one already? Just trying to save some weight.
Chicky, bring one or arrange to borrow one. We had a tire truing station back in the day but has been made into an air compressor station. We are making an area for tire truing but as of now, we do not have set power supplies for people to use.
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