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Old 12-08-2011, 05:34 PM   #1
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Default Converting F104 Pro to F104w

Does anybody have the part numbers needed to convert the 104 pro to the 104w? Mainly just the wheels and tires, im sure the 103 style rims will work with the 104 diff, can anyone confirm?
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:29 PM   #2
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To convert to the F104W you just need the front wishbones, part number 50503, although the carbon reinforced arms, part number 54153, are much stronger. The kingpins to match are part number 9804420.

The F104W uses specific high profile retro rubber rear tyres, if you want to run F103 wheels and tyres I would suggest fitting an F103 motor pod, part number 51243, as the axle is mounted lower to match the smaller tyre diameter.

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Do you have part numbers for the 104w foam tires and rims?
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I've just converted the other way. If you want the parts let me know. Including set of 3 racing foams.
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Do you have part numbers for the 104w foam tires and rims?
For foams take your pick from any F103 wheels and tyres, just don't true them down too much. Tamiya also make pre-assembled wheels and tyres, part numbers 54135 and 54136.
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apologies for digging up an old thread, but I am a little unclear on the wheel/tire combo I would like to run. Hopefully someone can clarify for me.

I have a 104Pro and run stock Tamiya Rubber on it. I have not yet tried the foam tires, but on my local medium grip track, I would like to continue running rubber.

I also have a penchant for the looks of the older F1 cars' shape and would like to use the 104W sized rubber.....but it appears they are only available with the 104W kits.
All the F103 wheels are the diff-in-wheel type wheels....

Can anyone point me to a set of wheel/tire combos I can run on the F104, at the same time, maintaining the wide look at the rear.

For the front, I am ok, I have the parts to conver to the 103 wider suspension.

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PS, I looked in the F104W manual and the wheels for the rear are diff-in-wheel types...and the wide rear rubbersare as rare as rocking horse excrement...
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Doesn't matter if its diff in the wheel it still works. Just like the wheel that goes on the other side.. its only got a nut in it..
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Doesn't matter if its diff in the wheel it still works. Just like the wheel that goes on the other side.. its only got a nut in it..
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apologies for digging up an old thread, but I am a little unclear on the wheel/tire combo I would like to run. Hopefully someone can clarify for me.

I have a 104Pro and run stock Tamiya Rubber on it. I have not yet tried the foam tires, but on my local medium grip track, I would like to continue running rubber.

I also have a penchant for the looks of the older F1 cars' shape and would like to use the 104W sized rubber.....but it appears they are only available with the 104W kits.
All the F103 wheels are the diff-in-wheel type wheels....

Can anyone point me to a set of wheel/tire combos I can run on the F104, at the same time, maintaining the wide look at the rear.

For the front, I am ok, I have the parts to conver to the 103 wider suspension.

Thanks

PS, I looked in the F104W manual and the wheels for the rear are diff-in-wheel types...and the wide rear rubbersare as rare as rocking horse excrement...
Yes, as warnos says, you can bolt the wide 103 wheel onto the 104 diff hub, no need for the old style 103 diff assy
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Doesn't matter if its diff in the wheel it still works. Just like the wheel that goes on the other side.. its only got a nut in it..
Ah ok, I never knew that, I have never owned an F103. I have got an F103GT but that uses the 12mm hex.

Good to know, will start shopping for some F103 wheel and tire sets.

Thanks guys!
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PS, I looked in the F104W manual and the wheels for the rear are diff-in-wheel types...and the wide rear rubbersare as rare as rocking horse excrement...
All the basic F104 kits, whether wide or narrow, run the old F103 diff. The F104 diff is only used in the few high end kits. The rear axles and wheels are all interchangeable between the F103 and F104, the only difference is the wheel width and diameter.
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