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Old 12-15-2004, 02:47 PM   #1
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I notice most of the drivers who are competitive on the national level tend to be in their late teens, 20s or 30s.

I am sure people can site examples of people in their 50s or even 60s who are very skilled and competitive on the local level even occasionally on the national level.

I am wondering to what degree age is a limiting factor. In particular I am wondering about drivers who were at one time top drivers either locally or nationally who continued to race, continued to be committed to wining but found that their slower reaction times, poorer vision or hand eye coordination caused them to lose ground to younger competitors.


I also have personal reason for asking this, I am in my mid 50s and been racing for only about a year. I am confident that I can get my car to be competitive and I know my driving will improve steadily with practice. What I am wondering about is weather I will hit a wall where no matter how much I practice and try to improve my chronological age will prevent me from getting much better.

I will continue to have fun with RC racing in any case. I am just curious about what would be a realistic goal to achieve at my age.
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well if you just started now, you have nothing to lose. you will only get better. unless you lose some critical things such as eyesight. but then again thats still a ways to go for you. i think its just because great young drivers will start to peak off at one point and will eventually not be able to keep up. even if they are still great, if they were once tops and are now a bit lower, and always lower, they just get discouraged or sumthing. i dunno. but whenever you start, i think skill can only get better with practice. so more years of practice= more skill. well of course everyone starts at different places, and some will get better faster than others blah blah blah.
and a realistic goal..... faster than you are now. that and just have fun,
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Old 12-15-2004, 03:14 PM   #3
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Every individual is unique. Just keep having fun with it and let the rest unfold. There is no age limit or barrier.
Most of the older generation actually fly model planes, that require more skill.

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Old 12-15-2004, 03:15 PM   #4
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I think we just need to watch Masami and see at what age he slows down. He has pretty much been at the top rung for almost 20 years now. Most guys that have been at the top have made choices to not be as "into" the national level scene as they got older. Rick Howart still makes the A's at big Races. Ive have been watching Matt Francis race since 1991 and he is still getting better. If there is a ceiling I dont think we have seen it since committment level usually drops before talent does.
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Old 12-15-2004, 03:24 PM   #5
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I have been racing RC cars for 25 years off and on Iam 52 years old and I think that Iam as good or better than I was when I started. I dont know if its because of todays better RC products or maybe I just understand how to setup better, but the main thing is all the great friends Ive made over the years and yes I still get a rush when I make the A main against our local fast guys! Have fun thats the main thing.
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I started when I was 16 and raced til about the age of 24. I was pretty good I took a break from R/C racing to run full scale cars. 4 years ago I got back into it now at 35 years old I feel that I am a better driver now because as an older/wiser racer my skills and patience work for me on track. I have more knowledge about tatics and setups then when I was younger! But if I knew then what I know now!

Age doesnt mean squat its the way you feel. I have seen guys 40 pluss whoop the younger guys we have about 4 of them here in florida that dont travel to bigger events that can hang with the guys that make the show. They even win on occasion.

Remember this ITS THE DRIVE INSIDE YOU THAT MAKES YOU COMPETITIVE!
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Old 12-15-2004, 04:30 PM   #7
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Just look at the Master's from Cleveland

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Yes, Eli can lay it down...
But so can A LOT of others in Masters class...
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Yes, Eli can lay it down...
Yeah, but Eli is the Fastest Quaker in the Land though too

But you'll never meet a nicer guy anywhere.
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Old 12-15-2004, 04:41 PM   #9
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I don't think age has anything to do with how fast you are. People who get slower as they get older usually do so because they lose the drive and commitment due to things like jobs, family, house payments, etc. As the Cleveland results show, an older racer who still actively races can go just as fast as the young guys, even at the highest level.

Sorry to drag the thread OT, but with results like that is there really a reason to run a separate master's class at all?

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Just look at the Master's from Cleveland

STOCK TOURING - A Main results Provided by NashrCracer.com
Pos Car Laps time name
1 1 24 5:10.26 STEPHEN SOBOTTKA

-- MASTERS TOURING - A Main results Provided by NashrCracer.com
Pos Car Laps time name
1 1 23 5:04.88 ELI EZROW


-- 1/12 STOCK - A Main results Provided by NashrCracer.com
Pos Car Laps time name
1 3 38 8:09.04 MARK SMYKA

-- 1/12 MASTERS - A Main results Provided by NashrCracer.com
Pos Car Laps time name
1 1 38 8:07.55 ELI EZROW

Yes, Eli can lay it down...
But so can A LOT of others in Masters class...
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age is just a number keep racing u only going to get better!!!!!!!!
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Mike Reedy brought a young kid to the track yesterday, propably 11-12 years old. Had flight tracking slips on all his gear, so they flew him in from somewhere, but this kid could tear up the track for a first time at SoCal, really impressive. I guess you are never too young to be competitive.
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Old 12-15-2004, 06:50 PM   #12
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Randy did the kid have blonde hair? And was he wearing an Associated shirt?
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Things are a lot different these days... I was going through boxes I had stored at my parents house today and founf RC mag's from the early 90's... Boy have things changed in the last 10-15 years.... Keep going, no matter what age.... I started as a kid in the 70's running control line cars, got into RC's in the 80's and still going now.... Just had my 2nd son and I can't wait till he's old enough to hold a transmitter...
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:20 PM   #14
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I am 31. Been with the hobby for 15 years racing for about 10 years. I have more driving skills today then i did 10 years ago. But i do feel that over time you will platue your skills to the point where u will stop improving or at least not improve in such large leaps as you do when first starting out. I dont think its age but rather a natural leveling out. If your 50something just starting out chances are u will see your skills get better over the next couple of years as you develop driving skills and tuning skills. I would guess that by year 5-6 you find your spot in the ranks of your local club, could be D main could be A main. Im a solid top B mid A runner at my club. Its been this way for about 4 years. I could be way off with the time it takes to level out but i think its a natural thing.

I have friends i have raced with all this time that rarely make the a-main and likely never will(they have the best gear money can buy and get track time when they can)
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Mike Reedy brought a young kid to the track yesterday, propably 11-12 years old. Had flight tracking slips on all his gear, so they flew him in from somewhere, but this kid could tear up the track for a first time at SoCal, really impressive. I guess you are never too young to be competitive.
If I am not mistaken, the kid is Nicholas Lee from Singapore. He should be around 13-14. He won B Main 1st in Reedy Race Thailand.
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