Is Boosted Racing Fading ? ?
#16
Tech Champion
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I think the major problem is that newbie’s want to be able to win right off without any real effort. They expect to show up and be on pace right out the box with their RTR car. Where is the challenge in that? The true fun in the sport is making yourself better and improving from race to race.
In fact newbies like to have boosted so they can have more speed to make up for their lack of handling skills. However, we all know that slower speeds are better for them to master their skills in racing.
Blinky places more emphasis on handling to achieve better lap times
Boosted places more emphasis on speed.
#17
In Belgium, we race TC 17.5T boosted, 10.5T boosted and mod. In holland it's 13.5T blinky, 13.5T boosted and mod.
17.5T boosted is the most popular class in the onroad so that's why I drive it (and because I just started driving onroad).
17.5T boosted is the most popular class in the onroad so that's why I drive it (and because I just started driving onroad).
#19
Tech Fanatic
My local track runs boosted ESC's with 21.5 motors in VTA and they are getting like 25 cars a week on average. It doesn't make sense to me but it seems to be bringing folks to the track. WGT is boosted 13.5 and thats the 2nd biggest class then our new F1 class is blinky mode and growing fast. We are getting almost 50 entries now on sundays. So I guess the boosted ESC has not killed racing in Toledo so far.
#20
Tech Master
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Absolutely agree with this. It should be mod or stock. For mod, choose your motor boosted or non-boosted it doesn't matter, its mod.
Everyone who's been around know that isn't possible boosted or non-boosted. Newbies can barely keep their cars on the track with the crappy kit motor let alone brushless and even boosted.
In fact newbies like to have boosted so they can have more speed to make up for their lack of handling skills. However, we all know that slower speeds are better for them to master their skills in racing.
Blinky places more emphasis on handling to achieve better lap times
Boosted places more emphasis on speed.
Everyone who's been around know that isn't possible boosted or non-boosted. Newbies can barely keep their cars on the track with the crappy kit motor let alone brushless and even boosted.
In fact newbies like to have boosted so they can have more speed to make up for their lack of handling skills. However, we all know that slower speeds are better for them to master their skills in racing.
Blinky places more emphasis on handling to achieve better lap times
Boosted places more emphasis on speed.
#21
#22
I dont think it has anything to do with lazyness in working on the car. I have to work on the car more running non boosted than I did with boosted because the car cant make up for lost speed in a corner as easily. Same as with VTA, the cars are so much slower you have to be dead on your lines and keep as much corner speed as possible because you cant make up for a mistake on the straight so its more important to work on the car and make sure it can take the corners as fast as possible.
#23
The problem is that mod is more dead than boosted racing. How many mod cars were at Champs? People seem to shy away from mod.
Why can't there be something in the middle? Is this not why they have a sportsman class (spec motors with boost). Something faster than blinky super slow and not as light speed as mod.
Saying there should be mod and spec only makes it go from one extreem to another. We need something in the middle.
Why can't there be something in the middle? Is this not why they have a sportsman class (spec motors with boost). Something faster than blinky super slow and not as light speed as mod.
Saying there should be mod and spec only makes it go from one extreem to another. We need something in the middle.
#25
Tech Regular
Modified is all but dead in the UK as only the top few drivers can handle the speed. On a small track blinky gives close competetive racing but lets face it, even a 10.5 is slow.
I run 13.5 and 10.5 boosted, where I race they are by far the most popular and most competetive classes, fast enough to be a challenge slow enough to be drivable. Don't get me wrong, I hate having to faff around with speedo settings to get 1/100sec off a lap time but is it any differant to putting a 0.25mm shim under a ballstud to alter a roll centre to achieve the same thing?
The fastest drivers will still be the fastest drivers regardless of what motor class they are in, might be a coincidence but the fastest driver are the ones who spend the most time setting up their cars and by doing the most testing.
Bb
I run 13.5 and 10.5 boosted, where I race they are by far the most popular and most competetive classes, fast enough to be a challenge slow enough to be drivable. Don't get me wrong, I hate having to faff around with speedo settings to get 1/100sec off a lap time but is it any differant to putting a 0.25mm shim under a ballstud to alter a roll centre to achieve the same thing?
The fastest drivers will still be the fastest drivers regardless of what motor class they are in, might be a coincidence but the fastest driver are the ones who spend the most time setting up their cars and by doing the most testing.
Bb
#26
Tech Champion
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The problem is that mod is more dead than boosted racing. How many mod cars were at Champs? People seem to shy away from mod.
Why can't there be something in the middle? Is this not why they have a sportsman class (spec motors with boost). Something faster than blinky super slow and not as light speed as mod.
Saying there should be mod and spec only makes it go from one extreem to another. We need something in the middle.
Why can't there be something in the middle? Is this not why they have a sportsman class (spec motors with boost). Something faster than blinky super slow and not as light speed as mod.
Saying there should be mod and spec only makes it go from one extreem to another. We need something in the middle.
The problem with boosted is that there are too many variables involved that can make one motor of the same wind outrun another also of the same wind by a very large margin. A mod class will ignore all those inequalities because its an "anything goes" class. However, if you want to have a faster "spec" class, blinky is the only way to go to keep it fair.
Honestly the benefit of is boost is only on the straight. If that is the only way you can win a race, then its no longer "onroad" racing its just drag racing. BTW, newbies like that because thats an easy way for them to win.
#27
R/C Tech Elite Member
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In Germany the boosted classes are nearly dead. Very few are still interested in downloading new software on their esc just to have some Teamdrivers around at a race that have a "newer" software. In blinky this stupidity is over.
I am attending the LRP-HPI-Challenge and just bought one X12 17,5t and can race with the best in this class without thinking about motortemperature or having to fear some of them has a better X12. We have all the same speed on the straights.
I am attending the LRP-HPI-Challenge and just bought one X12 17,5t and can race with the best in this class without thinking about motortemperature or having to fear some of them has a better X12. We have all the same speed on the straights.
Yes much better than have those team guys show up with a motor you can't have or a special rotor you also can't have. Maybe special packs and or overcharging at unsafe levels like we've seen at recent ROAR events....
edit: I have a feeling a lot of the people complaining about "unfair advantages" do not remember the days of having to tune your own brushed motors or fight for the best matched packs.
Anyone remember showing up at an electric nationals and see the stacks of motors and batteries that the "factory" guys were using?
I am all for a balanced field and its all about skill to win races, but R/C has never been anything about fair and mostly about who was able to bring the biggest gun to the fight.
#28
Tech Regular
As for being a newbie, I have been racing for 25years and I still have loads to learn but one thing I do know is that speed without contol won't win races
Bb
#29
Tech Regular
Bb
#30
Tech Elite
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...I think the major problem is that newbie’s want to be able to win right off without any real effort. They expect to show up and be on pace right out the box with their RTR car. Where is the challenge in that? The true fun in the sport is making yourself better and improving from race to race....
We're running blinky in TC here. It's going great so far.