Exotek F1R
#1292
Thank you
#1294
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXN077&P=7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-FGX-...item2a49d728ec
These look like they may work too. I think the stock king pins are 33.4mm long. I might get one of those but still setting up my front end. Lot of trial and error shimming, instructions was not a good starting reference. Just need to see if my steering link has enough clearance before I try a shorter kingpin.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-FGX-...item2a49d728ec
These look like they may work too. I think the stock king pins are 33.4mm long. I might get one of those but still setting up my front end. Lot of trial and error shimming, instructions was not a good starting reference. Just need to see if my steering link has enough clearance before I try a shorter kingpin.
#1295
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXN077&P=7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-FGX-...item2a49d728ec
These look like they may work too. I think the stock king pins are 33.4mm long. I might get one of those but still setting up my front end. Lot of trial and error shimming, instructions was not a good starting reference. Just need to see if my steering link has enough clearance before I try a shorter kingpin.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-FGX-...item2a49d728ec
These look like they may work too. I think the stock king pins are 33.4mm long. I might get one of those but still setting up my front end. Lot of trial and error shimming, instructions was not a good starting reference. Just need to see if my steering link has enough clearance before I try a shorter kingpin.
Those would indeed work as well.
What are you trying to get your car to do differently?
Aaron
#1296
Nah, just throwing it out there for initial setup for anyone else thinking of getting it. I eventually just screwed in most of the ball connector for the shock since at 39mm length, it was already nearly coming off the threads. Re-corrected the ride height by playing around with shimming top/bottom of the steering knuckle.
I still have the aluminum Tamiya uprights in case I want to go trailing, those are even shorter, so instead of having a stack of spacers, I can just use a slightly shorter kingpin.
Overall the front end suspension action is smoooooth. I wish I can slap this on my Street Jam F1 for the ultimate in suspension smoothness.
I still have the aluminum Tamiya uprights in case I want to go trailing, those are even shorter, so instead of having a stack of spacers, I can just use a slightly shorter kingpin.
Overall the front end suspension action is smoooooth. I wish I can slap this on my Street Jam F1 for the ultimate in suspension smoothness.
#1297
Nah, just throwing it out there for initial setup for anyone else thinking of getting it. I eventually just screwed in most of the ball connector for the shock since at 39mm length, it was already nearly coming off the threads. Re-corrected the ride height by playing around with shimming top/bottom of the steering knuckle.
I still have the aluminum Tamiya uprights in case I want to go trailing, those are even shorter, so instead of having a stack of spacers, I can just use a slightly shorter kingpin.
Overall the front end suspension action is smoooooth. I wish I can slap this on my Street Jam F1 for the ultimate in suspension smoothness.
I still have the aluminum Tamiya uprights in case I want to go trailing, those are even shorter, so instead of having a stack of spacers, I can just use a slightly shorter kingpin.
Overall the front end suspension action is smoooooth. I wish I can slap this on my Street Jam F1 for the ultimate in suspension smoothness.
#1298
I put EXOTEK F104 ADJUSTABLE FRONT ARM SET #1205 (ordered from RCMART) on my F1R today and I found a significant loose between turnbuckles and alloy arms for setting caster. I can shift turnbuckle inside and out about 0.5mm and bend whole arm up and down approx 3mm.
I tried to apply blue thread lock inside alloy part, helped a bit, but connection is still not tight. Looks like thread inside alloy part is for turnbuckles with larger diameter.
Is it "feature" or "issue"?
Thanks for advice.
I tried to apply blue thread lock inside alloy part, helped a bit, but connection is still not tight. Looks like thread inside alloy part is for turnbuckles with larger diameter.
Is it "feature" or "issue"?
Thanks for advice.
#1299
I put EXOTEK F104 ADJUSTABLE FRONT ARM SET #1205 (ordered from RCMART) on my F1R today and I found a significant loose between turnbuckles and alloy arms for setting caster. I can shift turnbuckle inside and out about 0.5mm and bend whole arm up and down approx 3mm.
I tried to apply blue thread lock inside alloy part, helped a bit, but connection is still not tight. Looks like thread inside alloy part is for turnbuckles with larger diameter.
Is it "feature" or "issue"?
Thanks for advice.
I tried to apply blue thread lock inside alloy part, helped a bit, but connection is still not tight. Looks like thread inside alloy part is for turnbuckles with larger diameter.
Is it "feature" or "issue"?
Thanks for advice.
Aaron
#1300
Hey guys,
I just put together the IFS and F104 Adjustable front arm set on my F1R2 chassis last nite.
I followed the two separate instructions (1 for the IFS and 1 for the F104 Adjustable Arms) to the T and I noticed with the standard settings for the Adjustable Arms (71mm for caster arms and 62 mm for the camber arms) that the camber comes out at about negative 8-9 degrees! I had to massively wind out the camber arms to get my desired camber angle of negative one degree. Now by winding out the camber I realised that I must have effected the caster settings as well. I'm not sure if this normal or if I have done something wrong here. Plus I don't have anything to measure caster.
Does anyone by chance have the length measurements for the caster and camber arms for the IFS + Adjustable Front arms setup?
Thanks.
I just put together the IFS and F104 Adjustable front arm set on my F1R2 chassis last nite.
I followed the two separate instructions (1 for the IFS and 1 for the F104 Adjustable Arms) to the T and I noticed with the standard settings for the Adjustable Arms (71mm for caster arms and 62 mm for the camber arms) that the camber comes out at about negative 8-9 degrees! I had to massively wind out the camber arms to get my desired camber angle of negative one degree. Now by winding out the camber I realised that I must have effected the caster settings as well. I'm not sure if this normal or if I have done something wrong here. Plus I don't have anything to measure caster.
Does anyone by chance have the length measurements for the caster and camber arms for the IFS + Adjustable Front arms setup?
Thanks.
#1302
Hey guys,
I just put together the IFS and F104 Adjustable front arm set on my F1R2 chassis last nite.
I followed the two separate instructions (1 for the IFS and 1 for the F104 Adjustable Arms) to the T and I noticed with the standard settings for the Adjustable Arms (71mm for caster arms and 62 mm for the camber arms) that the camber comes out at about negative 8-9 degrees! I had to massively wind out the camber arms to get my desired camber angle of negative one degree. Now by winding out the camber I realised that I must have effected the caster settings as well. I'm not sure if this normal or if I have done something wrong here. Plus I don't have anything to measure caster.
Does anyone by chance have the length measurements for the caster and camber arms for the IFS + Adjustable Front arms setup?
Thanks.
I just put together the IFS and F104 Adjustable front arm set on my F1R2 chassis last nite.
I followed the two separate instructions (1 for the IFS and 1 for the F104 Adjustable Arms) to the T and I noticed with the standard settings for the Adjustable Arms (71mm for caster arms and 62 mm for the camber arms) that the camber comes out at about negative 8-9 degrees! I had to massively wind out the camber arms to get my desired camber angle of negative one degree. Now by winding out the camber I realised that I must have effected the caster settings as well. I'm not sure if this normal or if I have done something wrong here. Plus I don't have anything to measure caster.
Does anyone by chance have the length measurements for the caster and camber arms for the IFS + Adjustable Front arms setup?
Thanks.
Aaron
#1303
Aaron
#1304
new IFS:
I'm kinda confused as to the spindle shimming for pit tires and 5mm ride height
Mike says 1mm under spindle, and shows in his pic, and Aaron says 3mm under.
how many mm TOTAL shims and how many mm of those under the spindle??
Also for damper end spares it looks like the 3racing ball ends come in 15mm,13mm and 16mm my IFS kit ones look like 15mm is that correct?
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=1945
or
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=4681
I'm kinda confused as to the spindle shimming for pit tires and 5mm ride height
Mike says 1mm under spindle, and shows in his pic, and Aaron says 3mm under.
how many mm TOTAL shims and how many mm of those under the spindle??
Also for damper end spares it looks like the 3racing ball ends come in 15mm,13mm and 16mm my IFS kit ones look like 15mm is that correct?
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=1945
or
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=4681
#1305
Tech Champion
iTrader: (15)
Happy New Year all!
Sorry I have been away this week. I have been away with family for the holidays.
Hi, You must adjust final castor by using a caster gauge. Good tools equals good results Also the instruction diagram is not to scale so you cannot just match the part to the picture (no room) so that could be why yours are so short?
This simple gauge will work for you;
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=2726
Same height as the wheel so as long as you use tires you will be ok lol.
Hi,
3mm is a lot of deflection and really not possible I think. Are you sure you meant .3mm movement? Mine have some play but no issue really. It is the tolerance needed so that metal thread can screw into metal thread.
Hi,
As that pic shows- I used 1mm spacer above the supplied coned spacer. Maybe Aaron lost his coned spacers but he was trying to emulate my setting as he found it drove easier (higher roll center).
The included cups are 13mm short ones.
Sorry I have been away this week. I have been away with family for the holidays.
Hey guys,
I just put together the IFS and F104 Adjustable front arm set on my F1R2 chassis last nite.
I followed the two separate instructions (1 for the IFS and 1 for the F104 Adjustable Arms) to the T and I noticed with the standard settings for the Adjustable Arms (71mm for caster arms and 62 mm for the camber arms) that the camber comes out at about negative 8-9 degrees! I had to massively wind out the camber arms to get my desired camber angle of negative one degree. Now by winding out the camber I realised that I must have effected the caster settings as well. I'm not sure if this normal or if I have done something wrong here. Plus I don't have anything to measure caster.
Does anyone by chance have the length measurements for the caster and camber arms for the IFS + Adjustable Front arms setup?
Thanks.
I just put together the IFS and F104 Adjustable front arm set on my F1R2 chassis last nite.
I followed the two separate instructions (1 for the IFS and 1 for the F104 Adjustable Arms) to the T and I noticed with the standard settings for the Adjustable Arms (71mm for caster arms and 62 mm for the camber arms) that the camber comes out at about negative 8-9 degrees! I had to massively wind out the camber arms to get my desired camber angle of negative one degree. Now by winding out the camber I realised that I must have effected the caster settings as well. I'm not sure if this normal or if I have done something wrong here. Plus I don't have anything to measure caster.
Does anyone by chance have the length measurements for the caster and camber arms for the IFS + Adjustable Front arms setup?
Thanks.
This simple gauge will work for you;
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=2726
I put EXOTEK F104 ADJUSTABLE FRONT ARM SET #1205 (ordered from RCMART) on my F1R today and I found a significant loose between turnbuckles and alloy arms for setting caster. I can shift turnbuckle inside and out about 0.5mm and bend whole arm up and down approx 3mm.
I tried to apply blue thread lock inside alloy part, helped a bit, but connection is still not tight. Looks like thread inside alloy part is for turnbuckles with larger diameter.
Is it "feature" or "issue"?
Thanks for advice.
I tried to apply blue thread lock inside alloy part, helped a bit, but connection is still not tight. Looks like thread inside alloy part is for turnbuckles with larger diameter.
Is it "feature" or "issue"?
Thanks for advice.
3mm is a lot of deflection and really not possible I think. Are you sure you meant .3mm movement? Mine have some play but no issue really. It is the tolerance needed so that metal thread can screw into metal thread.
new IFS:
I'm kinda confused as to the spindle shimming for pit tires and 5mm ride height
Mike says 1mm under spindle, and shows in his pic, and Aaron says 3mm under.
how many mm TOTAL shims and how many mm of those under the spindle??
Also for damper end spares it looks like the 3racing ball ends come in 15mm,13mm and 16mm my IFS kit ones look like 15mm is that correct?
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=1945
or
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=4681
I'm kinda confused as to the spindle shimming for pit tires and 5mm ride height
Mike says 1mm under spindle, and shows in his pic, and Aaron says 3mm under.
how many mm TOTAL shims and how many mm of those under the spindle??
Also for damper end spares it looks like the 3racing ball ends come in 15mm,13mm and 16mm my IFS kit ones look like 15mm is that correct?
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=1945
or
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=4681
As that pic shows- I used 1mm spacer above the supplied coned spacer. Maybe Aaron lost his coned spacers but he was trying to emulate my setting as he found it drove easier (higher roll center).
The included cups are 13mm short ones.