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Old 12-14-2004, 10:54 PM   #31
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This may be a little off topic but what the hell? I'm curious as to what a body sponsors stance would be if there's a large race and "the body to have" and that everyone is switching to is made by another company. Dale, say for instance, Parma releases a new body right before the 'Birds and it's just ballistic. Everyone's switched to it at the event and it's just dialed. Would your drivers be able to switch to that body for that race even though it's a Parma and you're sponsoring them? Would you look at it as a way for them to see what the competition has done to see if they can give feedback on it so you may be able to improve on a body of your own?
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Obviously they can give you the definitive answer but generally a sponsored driver will always drive their teams products at all races unless controll tyre/motor issues appear.
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Well, start thinking.
If you were sponsoring someone, and your gear can't keep up with the competition, you'd rather get someone elses product and make the sponsored driver win? With your companys name on it?
IMO, this is better than not winning.............
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Winning is always good but it has to be with the sponsors products.

Lets use an example....

Lets say a Parma shell was the best at a circuit if every driver including Protoform ones changed to Parma you would have nothing to market. However if your good team drivers could even get second or third with a protoform shell it then shows the shell can be competitive AND can be marketed. Better 2 have at least a shell in the top 10 than none at all.

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Old 12-15-2004, 08:10 AM   #35
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This may be a little off topic but what the hell? I'm curious as to what a body sponsors stance would be if there's a large race and "the body to have" and that everyone is switching to is made by another company. Dale, say for instance, Parma releases a new body right before the 'Birds and it's just ballistic. Everyone's switched to it at the event and it's just dialed. Would your drivers be able to switch to that body for that race even though it's a Parma and you're sponsoring them? Would you look at it as a way for them to see what the competition has done to see if they can give feedback on it so you may be able to improve on a body of your own?
This is EXACTLY what i mean by the body industry is tough. I cant speak for Dale, but im sure he is not thrilled when the other companies body ends up on a team drivers car. But in defense of always improving his product, when somthing out there has an edge.. its kinda necessary to try the "edge" to get the feedback. If not for competition we would still be driving the original PF stratus and the Nissan P35 that both stuck around for what seemed to be a decade. Now we have new and exciting bodies comming like the speed 12 and now the 3.0... if competition sparks this level of creativity and performance.. good for US!

A bit off topic, but has anyone else tried the Nemesiss on carpet? Its pretty dialed.
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Surely you can try "the edge" in a practice day though. Obviously its vital for the companies to try each other products, but in a big race a sponsored driver should always use the sponsors products.
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If a company has put their trust in you to help promote thier product you should ALWAYS run their product in race situations. If you want to test to see what the difference is in feel between two bodies you need to do that on your own time during a practice day when not too many people are around. Then report your findings to your sponsor so that they can take that information and make their own decisions as to what steps they need to make to improve their product. Too many people are not LOYAL to their sponsors these days just to obtain that A main win no matter what the cost.

Its the 15th.
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I am very interested in seeing this new body! Been a big Protoform/Proline body person forever...right Doug...lol

Bodies do make a difference in sedan. Looking forward to the new one....then the question hits. When will they hit the shelves????

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A bit off topic, but has anyone else tried the Nemesiss on carpet? Its pretty dialed.
Personally I thought it sucked.....Lost a lot of steering, response and strait speed when I switched from a Parma Alfa (suprise)

I'm a Parma dude til Proto does something about it
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If a company has put their trust in you to help promote thier product you should ALWAYS run their product in race situations. If you want to test to see what the difference is in feel between two bodies you need to do that on your own time during a practice day when not too many people are around. Then report your findings to your sponsor so that they can take that information and make their own decisions as to what steps they need to make to improve their product. Too many people are not LOYAL to their sponsors these days just to obtain that A main win no matter what the cost.

Its the 15th.
That's all well and good if you run for ONE SPONSOR, and one sponsor ONLY. Unfortunately, in today's competitive environment most drivers have more than a few sponsors. Your motor sponsor doesn't care what body company you run for, he expects you to put his motor in the show. Same with your battery company, and of course your body company. As a sponsored driver you have to weigh the potential consequences w/ each sponsor if you don't make the main. I understand the manufacturers' concerns, but there are some instances in which a driver may have to run a new product in order to satisfy the bulk of his/her sponsors by making the show.
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Very good point CypressMidWest!
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So it's the 15th, when can we see it?
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Isnt today the 15th? If so where is the body?
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Presumably it will go up sometime in their working day, its only about 9am ish in California isn't it?
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Forgot about time delays..hah its almost one here...oops

Cant Wait
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