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Old 12-04-2004, 05:13 PM   #1
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I have a Tc4 and am quite happy with it. It seems moderately quick and does what i tell it to. So why do i completely want a TRF? I cant get the damn thing out of my mind. Anyone else having this problem or is it just me? Will i be quicker with a TRF than a TC4? (million Dollar question)
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You will be quickest with the car thats inherent traits best suit your driving.

I suggest you have a drive of someones 415 and see what it feels like. Even if its not set up well you will be able to feel differences in the way it behaves. All in all tho I feel that my 415 behaves more or less like a shaft drive than a belt car except I can get excellent steering that was hard to achive with any shaft drive I have had.

Best to try before you buy.

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lol I'm in the same situation I can't seem to get the 415MS out of my mind
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Old 12-04-2004, 06:27 PM   #4
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I have a Tc4 and am quite happy with it. It seems moderately quick and does what i tell it to. So why do i completely want a TRF? I cant get the damn thing out of my mind. Anyone else having this problem or is it just me? Will i be quicker with a TRF than a TC4? (million Dollar question)
to tell you,i have the original 415 and still going to buy the 415ms,out of all the cars i've driven from yokomo,associated,losi,ofna and express the tamiya 415 by far is the perfect car.
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:09 PM   #5
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Add me to the TC4 owned looking for TRF 415 club!
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Seems that there is a needy bunch of us. Looks like i be needing to order me a tamiya. Its not that i am against the tc4, it just feels wrong somewhere no matter what setup.
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:45 PM   #7
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Been driving the TC3 since it came out. Tried the 415.

Anyone want to buy a TC3?
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never owned a tc4... but the trf is so sexy...... i cna't sit still thinking aobut it
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Old 12-04-2004, 08:12 PM   #9
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Iv'e got two TC-3's & a TC-4 i thought were all super dialed! then i got a EVOIII from a friend, within two pack i was totally blown away at the performance, not to mention the high quality craftsmanship of the tamiya's, get one, there's a hole other world out there at least thats what i discovered.
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Having owned/raced a TC3, TC4, and 415.. I'll say the handling (asphalt) is just awesome and smooth on the 415. But only problem though for the average user... the 415 is a oneway only car. You can get a "locked" center pulley from Tamiya. And you can buy a front spool from SpeedtechRC. But if you want a diff, you have to build one yourself from other cars. Alot of us are using older Yokomo SP rear diffs in the front of our 415s for carpet.

As for quality, the 415 has it way over on the TC4. But for support, the TC3/4 has it hands down. It all ends up being personal preference. A good thing about this hobby is we can switch cars anytime we want whenever we can afford to. If its what you want.. get it. Just as long as you are happy with what ya got...
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Never ran a TC4...I have raced the last 4 years with a TC3 though. This year I have switched to the 415.
It all depends on the surface you are racing. If you are running outside (ashpalt) go with the MS. If you are running on carpet, get the TC4 or the 415 (non MS version). The MS chassis might flex too much for carpet and the LW suspension is terrible on tight carpet tracks...at least compared to the stock 415 suspension!
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Had a TC3, tried a TC4, tried a 415, got an Xray; never looked back
But, to stay on topic, the 415 is definately a notch above the TC4, but then again, look at the price.
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Well to jump into this debate, I just sold my 415 after buying a TC4. I ddn't like the 415 with it's double one-way on carpet. I found that the front one-way made the car go one-way when going slow, and go the other way when under power. I was told it was due to the front one-way. Bought the center pully instead of using the center one-way, and made it a bit easier to drive, but not much. I ordered the Yokomo parts to build a front diff, but Yokomo support isn't big where I race, so I just gave up and sold the car.
One other draw back of using the 415 is that it is a double decker graphite car, and I have been told that all the fast guys unscrew all of the top screws on the upper deck, twist the chassis and screw them back in after every run, as the top deck tweaks the car. The TC4 does not have this problem.
If I could have got a ball diff for the 415, I probably would have kept it, as Tamiya support is huge where I race, and the car, was very fast and quite to drive, but I want to drive my car inside on carpet and outside on ashphalt in the summer, so decided to sink my money into upgrading the TC4 with graphite, and blue aluminum parts.
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Old 12-04-2004, 10:51 PM   #14
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if you have the tc4 and want to buy a tamiya car i would recommend an EVO 4. it is shaft driven like the tc4 and its a really good car. the only weakness is the plastic drive cup. there a re alum parts available to basically you dont have any problems. if you like the feel of shaft, go with the evo 4.
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:00 AM   #15
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im leaning towards tamiya 2. i have a tc3 myself. drooloing over evo4 lol
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