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Old 12-03-2004, 03:17 PM   #31
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After the race, I knew the stock class was won by the TC3 (steven from Trackside...congrat anyway).........I am not sure AE will post the result on their own site.....?
I am just wondering what AE will said....? A win from AE...? I am sure they do not want to called out "TC3" a win cause that will hurt their TC4 sales....

But I too wondering how come a lot of them are changing back to TC3 at Cleveland...

Too bad for those team drivers, they just cannot switch back to TC3 unlike those individual or sponcered drivers....
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:22 PM   #32
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there's nothing wrong with the car people! Everything is just fine! I got nothing but a flame job when I talked about it.

Stogie, man, I right there with you. Can't put my finger on it. I'll keep trying, but a Pro 4 looks to be on the horizon.
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:41 PM   #33
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I suppose we can tell ninja #32 that his mission in Ohio was successful....
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So what, there is like half a dozen on this thread that like the TC-4
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Old 12-03-2004, 06:15 PM   #35
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there's nothing wrong with the car people! Everything is just fine! I got nothing but a flame job when I talked about it.

Stogie, man, I right there with you. Can't put my finger on it. I'll keep trying, but a Pro 4 looks to be on the horizon.
That seems to be AE's stance lately... If something's not right, it's not their fault, it's yours....

Not a TC, but an AE product here.... I got an MGT... Had more problems with it than I ever had with any other truck.... Then again I broke more parts on my T4 than I ever did on my origional 10T....

I still hate Losi but may soon be going elsewhere for my RC's....
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Old 12-03-2004, 07:02 PM   #36
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Whoa .....to think that I was thinking of pickin' this car up when I was at my lhs. Peeps talkin' bout suspension slop, defective diff gears, replacing the cha$$is, bearing$, & shock$......
I'll just keep my money till Jan.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:44 PM   #37
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thanks for all of the input...and since no one listed any real improvements to the car, guess Ill hold off..and atleast see what it does at the local track..
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Old 12-03-2004, 09:47 PM   #38
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If you are running stock, I dont think there is a car that is as fast ( or at least that is this fast AND easy to drive) as the TC3. The mod classes may eventually come around, but I know that im not getting rid of mine and dont plan to any time soon.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:45 PM   #39
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As a former TC3 owner I have to say I do not miss that car at all! And after seeing the TC4 I'm really glad I switched to Xray. The TC3 Has it's good points but the flaws in the design out weighed them, like a previous post said Asscociated made the TC4 with the basher in mind not the racer. I think they should have called it TC3.5.
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Give the car some time. How many of us really know how to set a car up? However I do agree that AE seems to be slipping a little as far as fitting issues go. It seems like all other cars are getting to be more precise while AE seems to think otherwise.
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Default It seems the pro drivers are having...

trouble getting it dialed and still no set up sheets posted on their website.

Tpalen...give us an update?
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At the moment, I find the TC4 to be a real challenge. I'm running foam on carpet, though, so maybe people running rubber tire outdoors are having better experiences - I can only hope.

On the drawing board, it does look like a "better" (and I use that term loosely) design, but I'm having a very difficult time getting the car to run fast out of the corners. It has this nasty on-power push that I can't get rid of. I have such an absurd setup on the car just to get it in the ballpark, and there's still a long way to go. Experimenting with everything from roll centers to swaybars to swapping the toe-blocks all around from front to rear and back again to try and find the magical combination - the normal logic I got accustomed to with the TC3 doesn't seem to apply with this chassis.

Of course, I think back and I'm sure it took weeks to get really comfortable with the TC3... and I'm only at 6 weeks with the TC4 now, 3 of which with full option parts available.
I'm also running the car on carpet, in mod. I bolted the front swaybar on today and it helped the car tenfold.

I was having similar problems to you, and arrived at the following setup:

front: 35wt, #3's, purple, second from outside on tower, inside on arm, inside on inner camber link mount, one shim. 4 deg caster, outside hole on steering hub, no spacers under arm mounts.

rear: 30wt, #3's, purple, outside on tower and arm, inside on inner camber link with one washer under ballstud, 2.5 deg rear toe block, and O block in front of that. I am also running pro-squat in the rear to help the car rotate, by using the smallest shim under the 2.5 block.

I changed a few things today and arrived at this setup, it seems like the car is finally working. Hopefully it will continue to tomorrow.

That is with Jaco dbl pink/org fronts, dbl pink rears. Battery is forward. 5.5mm droop front, 5mm rear, with 57.5mm tires, adjust according to tire size (.5mm per mm change in tire).


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Old 12-04-2004, 12:48 AM   #43
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I have to agree and disagree. Cars like the Pro 4 and Tamiya 415 have slightly larger arms, slightly larger c-hubs and wheel knuckles. The arms are bigger than a TC3/4, but they are molded carbon. I think this is the better way. Making them stronger, but yet they are as light or lighter than the smaller stock TC3/4 counter part. A carbon part that is stonger than a plastic one. Just my theory. Anyone weigh the difference between a TC3/4 plastic arm and a Tamiya one?
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well when the tc3 first came out was it 100% perfect? probally not, im not sure
the tc4 just came out not to long ago, so give it time maybe and stuff will happen

so i guess i still dont know what to get tc4 or tc3
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I say get one and see for yourself what the car does in your hands.

You never know until you try for yourself.. I mean honestly I have seen bad things abotu every car on the net and I wont say anything bad about them unless I had a problem with it. ( times out of 10 the car just doesnt fit a persons driving habits. They get into the mold of doing something and absoluetely resist change...
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