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Old 10-27-2011, 06:31 PM   #31
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sorry but what do you mean buy ''if the tires are loaded''?
He means if weight transfer is to fast/abrupt towards the limit of grip then less traction is obtained

Maybe think of it as full tire patch consistency...lol

Hence the middle of the tire gets more time to be placed on the road surface vs. from side of tire to side of tire
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Totally true about weight transfer ! I limit my weight transfer time by using heavier oil (60wt to 80wt) instead of relying on finger control only ....
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Been aggressive does that mean breaking hard ? here's a video of some of the top players i saw recently , i think been gentle on the breaks makes you smoother ...
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzE1MzA5NDQ0.html
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Totally true about weight transfer ! I limit my weight transfer time by using heavier oil (60wt to 80wt) instead of relying on finger control only ....
I run 40wt and 35wt....

So will a heavier shock oil smooth out weight transfer?
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I run 35wt and 40wt....

So will a heavier shock oil smooth out weight transfer?
The spring and oil work as a team so depending on your spring rate you should adjust your oil

But I think the topic is more about keeping the car as flat as possible leaning forward/backward and side to side and if more damp in relation to your spring does that then you are correct hence smoother is again faster because the grip limit is not approached to suddenly

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I run 40wt and 35wt....

So will a heavier shock oil smooth out weight transfer?
Yes it does, but if too heavy the car will not transfer quickly enough, and slide. You're always searching for the correct amount of reaction, experimenting with oils is one of many factors which all interact with each other..one of the reasons this hobby is so interesting

For example I use 350 sometimes 450CST, and use front anti dive to reduce the weight transfer, so I can get the faster reaction of the thinner oil for quick direction change, whilst still keeping the car stable on entry and exit
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I run 40wt and 35wt....

So will a heavier shock oil smooth out weight transfer?
Lots of people don't like this but another adjustment to change weight transfer is Anti-dive, don't be afraid to try it. It will stiffen the front "feel" or dive of the car, almost like splitting a spring and oil selection. I find it slightly stiffens the front feel and also settles the back of the car down. Give it a try, it could surprise you.

***Sorry didn't see above post, but same info.
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Good Johnny, I also have anti dive dialed in, but with the lowest possible roll center... It really works wonders.....
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Thanks for the info guys. I only get to race once a month during the winter but we get 2 hrs of practice time before the races start. I'll try some things out.
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I know this is an old thread but a fascinating subject all the same.

I think what people mean by "smooth" is how you don't ask too much of the car during weight transfer situations by abrupt inputs, this will just unsettle the car and cause it to be unpredictable.

You tend to see really aggressive drivers who hack at the wheel, like quite a safe setup, one where the rear end stays put and they really need to throw the car at the corner to get it to turn in some times even braking whilst turning to upset the car a little, this works with certain people and it's just one driving style, they tend to be able to get on the power then really early and aggressively because the back end is safe.

Smoother drivers tend to like a car that has a lot more mechanical grip on the front axle, they're generally smoother with the steering input and smoother with the throttle on the way out, this gives maximum mid corner speed.

Both styles are fast which ever works for you works for you, but there's no harm in trying to be smoother.

I tend to start turning for the corner way earlier than needed and really slowly feed the steering wheel on to see how much grip the front axle is giving me then feed in until the car has touched the apex, at this point start ramping up the power really fast, smoothly but fast whilst unwinding the steering, if the car steps out you've lost time, as Jackie Stewart said don't get on the gas until you're sure you won't have to back off.

I'm not the fastest driver but I think the philosophy is correct.
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