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Old 10-14-2011, 12:49 PM   #1
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Thumbs up SERPENT S411 FWD

I just saw the report on Red Rc on this chassis. Looks like it borrows a lot of the parts from the S411 chassis.

http://www.redrc.net/2011/10/serpent...ek/#more-48198

I know in Asia that the FWD classes are pretty large - locally, quite a few people jumped on the FWD band wagon with the FF03, however, I don't think the build quality can compare to the S411 FWD. It'll be interesting to see one in person to see how it stands up to the rest of the "race" FWD's on the market.

http://www.redrc.net/2011/10/serpent...ek/#more-48198

BTW - looking at the pictures shows a different steering rack... could there be a tuning option on the horizon for the S411?
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You buy one of these and I'll buy a TOP Sabre FF and we can destroy the Tamiya FF03s for a race or two before we both will have to shelve them when they get banned from the class.

I kid, but do you think they'll be allowed here in Tamiyaland?
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Given that the only time you ever see a FWD class is in Tamiyaland, the answer is NO.

Also if the price for one of these is gonna be in the $450plus range, chances are the potential for these showing up on a local FWD class are slim as well.

However, its nice to see Serpent come out with so much new product lines latetly. Hope they price it right so that it doesn't wind up sitting on the store shelf forever.
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We run a FWD class locally and it is gaining some momentum. Right now all you see are TOP Sabres and FF03s, the Sabre has been dominating but the FF03s are catching up since they have gearing options that the Sabre does not. It's a really fun class to drive and has even made converts out of some expert drivers due to the close races we have with these cars.

There's no way a full aluminum and carbon fiber kit like the Sabre or the Serpent can compete price-wise with a plastic tub car. On the othere hand, if you buy all the Tamiya options for the FF03 the price gets a lot closer
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You buy one of these and I'll buy a TOP Sabre FF and we can destroy the Tamiya FF03s for a race or two before we both will have to shelve them when they get banned from the class.

I kid, but do you think they'll be allowed here in Tamiyaland?
That would mean that the FF03 drivers would need to race at non-TCS events.... Do you think thats even possible?
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That would mean that the FF03 drivers would need to race at non-TCS events.... Do you think thats even possible?
Good point. The only time we see more than 2 of them is right before a TCS race.
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Old 10-26-2011, 03:12 PM   #7
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Here in Ottawa, our club runs four classes. These are GT1, GT2, Mini and F-1. The club rules are loosely based on the Canadian TCS rules with some exceptions as noted below plus we allow virtually any chassis not limiting ourselves to Tamiya.

GT1 (17.5 with boost)
GT2 (Blackcan motor or 17.5 no boost)
Mini. (TCS rules apply with exception to battery. Any low C lipo battery will be allowed for club races)
F1 (Rules same as Mini.)

You'll note that we don't have a dedicated FF-03 class but instead run these cars run in the GT2 class with the black can or non boosted 17.5.

At the last club race, I used my FF-03 Pro with the SP Citrix Club Stock 17.5 motor and ESC combo to qualify third. My car was competitive and with a better driver could have done even better.

The Serpent 411 FWD looks great and I'd run one in a heart beat.The single gear diff makes maintenance almost a thing of the past and the car would be basically bullet proof. I see no reason not to run a FWD car in with the 4wd crowd.
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I don't race much but mess around a lot. The Serpent car looks great and I would get one if the price wasn't so high. I play around a little with my Sabre. The only options it has is a gear diff, aluminum steering, and aluminum battery holder. Other than that, it's a pretty nice smooth chassis~! Corners great~!

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how are these cars on the front tires? (my sons vw GTI eats rubber) just curious on an R/C FF car how it would be.
the 411 FF looks very interesting, all the new choices out and this one screams attention.
the front gearing on it looks strong, being open to debris how well would it hold up?
could be my first FF.
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I have run my 411FF for 10 or so runs. Our track is low wear, so it can be hard to gauge tire wear, but it has been good so far. I would guess it really depends on how you drive it as well.

This class is a ton of fun.
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Tim would the top plate from the S411FF fit a standard S411? Is there any noticable difference between the the two top decks?

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From looking at them while still on the cars, I would say no way would it fit. Lengths are different and there is a crosspiece where the layshaft pullies would be..

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Tim would the top plate from the S411FF fit a standard S411? Is there any noticable difference between the the two top decks?

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From looking at them while still on the cars, I would say no way would it fit. Lengths are different and there is a crosspiece where the layshaft pullies would be..

Thanks for checking.......always looking for something new to try .
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I would like to see the Yokomo YR-F2 run against this car, the Yok got banned everywhere in Asia, for being a rocket in the FF class.
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