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Old 10-10-2011, 07:17 PM   #1
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Default Whats the difference in these kits Xray t3 2011 and Xray t3r

I am looking at buying a touring car and not sure what to get. It seems like all the ones on here for sale are almost full price. But I noticed Xray has 2 versions, the T3 2011 and the T3R. Whats the difference.
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2011 spec is the full race version.

The T3r is XRay's "budget friendlier" version.

Compared to the 2011, the T3r has single post steering, composite chassis [rather than 100% CF], and threaded links instead of turn buckles.

Other than that, there isn't much difference, and some guys at the local track have even updated a T3r to full 2011 spec, the only outward differences are the silver bulkheads, instead of the orange anodizing, and adding the dual post steering.
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The T3R is the composite version of the 2010 T3. And can be just as competitive as any other TC. If you decide to go that route, these couple of upgrades/changes help a lot..

-50mm front axles. (Cheaper then buying ECS drive shafts, yet provide better performance)
-Horizontal steering mod(harder on the T3R, pm me for details) on T3R or 2011.
-64 pitch spur.

My T3R ran very well, and kept up with others. Which kept cost low, and keeps the performance of modern touring cars.
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As above, but bare in mind that Xray will be releasing a new version, the 2012 very shortly so if you hold on you might be able to get a T3 2011 a bit cheaper as it will be old stock.
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The T3R is the composite version of the 2010 T3. And can be just as competitive as any other TC. If you decide to go that route, these couple of upgrades/changes help a lot..

-50mm front axles. (Cheaper then buying ECS drive shafts, yet provide better performance)
-Horizontal steering mod(harder on the T3R, pm me for details) on T3R or 2011.
-64 pitch spur.

My T3R ran very well, and kept up with others. Which kept cost low, and keeps the performance of modern touring cars.
Where can i find those axles?
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T3R (I have one)
what you get/dont get...

VERY flexy chassis
no sway bars (I dont use em anyway)
VERY soft rear diff outdrives (plastic): my outdrives wearing allready ..in silvercan racing !!!!
no turnbuckles (no biggy, they are cheap)
no front diff (spool only)
cheaper (fat) alu driveshafts all round
no L1L2 or H1H2 (does the 2011 have these in the kit ??)

If you are racing higher power/faster classes, get the 2011 instead
T3R is excellent otherwise. Very good value. Approx same price as a Ta05R where I live.
I think the T3R is based on the original T3 (ver 1)
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which is better for carpet, stiff or flexi?
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which is better for carpet, stiff or flexi?
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I'm racing a lightly modded T3R in 17.5. The only thing holding the car back right now is my rusty driving.

The first option I would add would be the chassis posts to stiffen it up. It has so much flex that the steering post can pop out of socket in the middle of a corner.

I switched to 6* caster blocks for some more mid-exit steering

I run turnbuckles for convenience more than anything.

And, of course, 64 pitch gears.
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Where can i find those axles?
I used this. Remember, buy two..

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The first option I would add would be the chassis posts to stiffen it up. It has so much flex that the steering post can pop out of socket in the middle of a corner.
This is true, but with the set endpoints, it will only happen when and if hit into the wall. It also helps flipping the cam opposite of what the manual says.
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