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Old 11-24-2004, 09:08 AM   #1
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Hey all, I have a T-spec and was looking at the setup on the car as I will be practicing with it Friday and racing it Sunday and noticed a few things....

1. the car has NO DROOP from the factory, I noticed there is rear adjustments for uptravel and droop but nothing on the front, or did I miss something, but I would think you would want some droop in the car otherwise it will be too stiff

2. the rear camber links are at an extreme angle, has anyone tried the top mounting hole on the carriers.

3. Has anyone tried moving all the caster clips one way of the other?

4. I can't seem to get the cars ride height any lower then 10mm with rubber tires, obviously I will be able to go lower with foam tires as they wear, but any thoughts on this?

Anything else anyone has tried setup wise on these cars???
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:52 AM   #2
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2 of the guys that I race with run T-Specs and they seem a little too inconsistent. They are either rocket fast and hooked up like a slot car, or they are total dancing slugs. They havent found much middle ground with them. They also seem pretty prone to breaking spindles. Most of the other guys we race with have TC3's (myself included) and we have been beating the T-specs consistently. But, when the T-spec runs, it RUNS.

Of course, we are racing these 4WD cars on a carpet oval, not a road course, and running them pretty much box stock. Most of us run real soft springs in the front and the left rear. I think the T-Spec is a good car, but in my experience the TC3 and even the XXX-S is a bit more consistent. Plus, finding parts for the T-Spec is a royal bitch.
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From the t-spec note in the racing forum....


T-Spec setup
For the interested, here is my T-Spec setup from Saturday (11/6) at The Track. I believe it can improved upon significantly, but it could serve as a starting point. Having owned the car for less than a month, I am by no means an authority on it (or anything else), so take what's presented here with as many grains of salt as you like. With that said, it seems to me that the flex in the T-Spec chassis dictates a softer-than-normal sedan carpet setup (i.e. springs, dampers, wheel rate via tire diameter). My attempts at running "hard" springs and oil haven't produced good results so far. Also, I've found that lowering the ride height using the droop screws tweaks the chassis, so I've resorted to using o-rings inside the shocks on the shock shafts (this could technically be illegal, under the "if we don't say you can do it, it's illegal" rule, unless the internal spacers can be considered part of the pistons...I won't complain if you won't). See you guys next week.

Andy

Front:
Springs: Stock (blue)
Oil: 700W (Tamiya)
Ride height: about 7 mm (probably too high, I plan to lower it some more)
Droop (HPI gauge): about 3
Tires: Plaid, average diameter = 62.8 mm (Niftech compound inside edge, soak for under a minute)
Camber: 2 degrees
Caster: larger spacer in front

Rear:
Springs: Stock (blue)
Oil: 400W (Tamiya)
Ride height about 7 mm (again, too high, I plan to lower it some more)
Droop (HPI gauge): about 8
Tires: Purple, average diameter = 62.9 mm (Niftech compound full width, soak for 10-15 minutes)
Upper links: Stock (top hole outer, bottom hole inner)
Shock position: Furthest hole out on tower (i.e. shocks as stood-up as possible)
Sway bar: none
Camber: 2 degrees

Gearing:
Spur: 60T (stock metric)
Pinion: 25T (Tamiya)
Average roll-out: about 29 mm (from what I'm told this is a considerable amount of roll-out for a sedan on the current layout. The motor was only warm after a run, though, so more roll-out may be the ticket)

Battery position: Forward

Motor (I currently own two motors):
Brushes: Stock
Springs: Stock
Maintenance: comm cuts every 4-5 runs, seems to help a lot, haven't replaced any brushes yet

Battery (I currently own 5 battery packs. I use each of them once during a race day):

Charge rate: 4.5 amps. Yes, that's really it. My lame charger won't charge at a higher rate. I will say that Spec batteries are NiCads; not NiMH. So, the 6 and 7 amp rates used for NiMH may not be the best for these GP 1600 NiCads. Or, I'm just really cheap.
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Those shock oils you have listed what are they compariable to in Assoc or Trinity oils?

I was going to try standing up the shocks and taking off the sway bar myself and since you have that setup I may try that early on in my experiment with this car....My biggest fear is not being able to get another gear into the car, we have a big, open carpet track so you need gear, I fit a 29 48pitch gear in, but it is close to be too tight....dont realy want to go back to a 28 tooth.....

I'll post what my setup ends up being Friday evening...
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Nova F1 Racer - If you'd like to try a higher charge rate, hit me up at the track this saturday. You can charge a pack on my 16x9 if you'd like(it'll charge up to 7 amps).
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That was not my setup but Andy's who races with us....
His setup was quite a few faster than the rest of us...
I have a Integy charger that can get up there but I'm still trying to catch up with Todd Marshall and Andy in the setup area...

CHeck our the thread in the racing forum in here and look for the T-spec racing at the track......
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Can't get spare parts for the T-spec..... Soon to be called

"T-gone".... What good is this car if you can't get spare parts.....
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Can't get spare parts for the T-spec..... Soon to be called

"T-gone".... What good is this car if you can't get spare parts.....
What parts do you need? Most of the suspension parts are from the Trinity Reflex/V-one RR nitro cars. The V-one parts aren't hard to find at all.
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What parts do you need? Most of the suspension parts are from the Trinity Reflex/V-one RR nitro cars. The V-one parts aren't hard to find at all.
"According" to the rules you MUST use t-spec parts only....

The rear bulkhead is what broke on 3 peoples car and they can not get the part for it....

It's jus not worth the hassle.....
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Has anyone found a set-up sheet for the car. I am in the process of tuning my chassis and rebuilding the motor and want to document it and work from there. Thanks Gene
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I hate to say it but support for this car / kit have been typical Trinity fashion....put it out there get excite, don't support it...I had to have a friend call a guy at trinity to get the internal transmission ratio so I could calculate roll-out....I had posted on Tech Talk and didnt even get a sniff of a response last time I checked...No one is stocking parts for the car either and I can't find them on Shop-A-Tron either, plus no manual available for download on Trinity's site either....plus no setup sheet ( I guess I could use a Reflex NT sheet they are similiar enough)....but it is frustrating they are great cars that are ALOT of fun the race....

BTW: The internal transmission is 2.6 according to Trinity....
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i know they dont have all the parts, but they do have quite a few
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I hate to say it but support for this car / kit have been typical Trinity fashion....put it out there get excite, don't support it...I had to have a friend call a guy at trinity to get the internal transmission ratio so I could calculate roll-out....I had posted on Tech Talk and didnt even get a sniff of a response last time I checked...No one is stocking parts for the car either and I can't find them on Shop-A-Tron either, plus no manual available for download on Trinity's site either....plus no setup sheet ( I guess I could use a Reflex NT sheet they are similiar enough)....but it is frustrating they are great cars that are ALOT of fun the race....

BTW: The internal transmission is 2.6 according to Trinity....
Hmmmm... I got 2.82........
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I recently picked up a T-SPEC. It comes with an instruction manual, which does not really tell much. The manual shows a front stabilizer with the parts looking like Kyosho, right out of the Nitro cars. But there is clearly not enough space between the lower hinge pins to use the parts shown. The car did NOT come with the parts for the front stabilizer and it was badly adjusted, with a grub screw rammed tight against the travel limit/stabilizer holder, damaging the part. I will be trying to find out from Trinity if there are any front stabilizer parts available. If so, I will try to buy them (though they actually already owe me the parts since they were supposed to be included).
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