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Old 05-28-2012, 02:20 PM
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I use a small drop of locktite and then dab it on a papertowel before inserting steel screws into aluminum bulkheads (works with offroad too). It provides just enough stability without making it extremely difficult to remove the screws later. I also highly recommend buying a screw extraction kit for when the heads do strip out.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:31 PM
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Anyone here not using anti rollbars? After a suggestion by my colleague (who also doesn?t use them with another car) I removed them and instantly had a better feel with the car. My friend finished second (and with one of the top Large Scale drivers in the world driving with us that is considered to be a victory here ) and I am confident if the adjustment period wouldnt be that long my result would be better aswell. Note that we use foam tires
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Originally Posted by Fred Hubbard View Post
It's really too big, the teeth will protrude below the chassis, you could get away with running it on carpet but you will have to drive super smooth and not got over any dots or barriesr and run your ride height around 5.4R and 5.2F so that you don't risk the chance of cutting the rug. As for running it on asphalt, forget about it! If you want to run a big gear a 116 will suffice.
I've been running a 118t spur in a T3 with the standard lower deck with no problems, the teeth come almost flush with the chassis, they did not protrude on my car.

roger999 I suggest that as you allready have the spur gear, at your next rebuild do a test fit and see.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UrabusDenis View Post
Anyone here not using anti rollbars? After a suggestion by my colleague (who also doesn?t use them with another car) I removed them and instantly had a better feel with the car. My friend finished second (and with one of the top Large Scale drivers in the world driving with us that is considered to be a victory here ) and I am confident if the adjustment period wouldnt be that long my result would be better aswell. Note that we use foam tires
Although I do sometimes vary the thickness I never run without them.
I have never ever seen a top drivers setup that doesn't use them (And you won't )

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Old 05-29-2012, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Skiddins View Post
Although I do sometimes vary the thickness I never run without them.
I have never ever seen a top drivers setup that doesn't use them (And you won't )

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Yes, I don't remember seing any setups without them, that is why it's interesting for me My guess is that it could work in some conditions with foams, sinče they by their nature reduce vibrations
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by UrabusDenis View Post
Yes, I don't remember seing any setups without them, that is why it's interesting for me My guess is that it could work in some conditions with foams, sinče they by their nature reduce vibrations
I would have thought that when using foams, the speed that the car changes direction etc would mean that roll bars should improve balance even more than running on rubber
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:12 AM
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None of the fast guys around here run sway bars.

Any feedback on the arrowmax ECS's?
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:12 AM
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Can I use "308361 hardened shock shafts" on t3 2012 standard shock?
I need a longer shock to raise ride height
AFAIK 308361 is a shaft for T2 007
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:18 AM
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Will Xray ever redesign their shocks?

What do you think Xray will change for the T3 13?
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:27 AM
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A local Xray Team driver looked over my car recently and suggested I remove both bars one night when we had poor traction (carpet/rubber) and I was struggling with the car being just a bit loose (after being on rails just the week before). The next race, the car was glued to the track.

Back in the day, I used to struggle with anti-roll bars on my FT TC3. I wanted to run them simply because they were a FT part and they looked cool on the car lol. But, in my case, the car always seemed looser with bars than without. Yesterday, we went to the track for a bit of practice and I removed the bar from my Mini M03 too and it also helped that car. Again, just my opinion, but I feel that if you are running a fast, high traction track, I can see a benefit to them. If you're running a slower, loose track, I feel they are actually a bit of a hindrance.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:51 AM
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I used to play with sways, run with, run without . Now I play with sway bar diameter. the sway bars help your car to run flat through the corner. when one tire is loaded (being raised by shock and wishbone) the sway bar raises the opposite side causing the car to corner flatter. The greater the difference in load between the outside and inside tires the less lateral grip those 2 tires will make.
Try running different thickness front and rear, smaller diameter more traction.
So 1.2 rear and 1.4 front will yield more rear traction.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by nerdling View Post
I've been running a 118t spur in a T3 with the standard lower deck with no problems, the teeth come almost flush with the chassis, they did not protrude on my car.

roger999 I suggest that as you allready have the spur gear, at your next rebuild do a test fit and see.
Yes i think that is a good idea, but i fitted it last evening put a car on a flat surface and when was trying to move a spur didnt move freely. Thats why asked here.
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Never put yourself into a hole where just because a "team" driver never posts a setup with a setting that it isn't useful. I've gone back and forth with and without sway bars on various cars, and its just like any other setting, it is useful in certain conditions. If you take your shocks off and move the suspension you get an idea of what they do, and how much articulation it takes before they even do anything. Most of the time team drivers are only posting setups from tracks with ideal conditions and their setups tend to only vary with small changes.
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Originally Posted by RCknight View Post
What do you think Xray will change for the T3 13?

I saw some of the development parts and a preproduction T3-2013 being run by Martin Hudy at the Reedy Race last weekend. Lots of subtle tweaks to the T3-2012 platform, some of which may or may not make it into next years production kit.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeXray View Post
Never put yourself into a hole where just because a "team" driver never posts a setup with a setting that it isn't useful. I've gone back and forth with and without sway bars on various cars, and its just like any other setting, it is useful in certain conditions. If you take your shocks off and move the suspension you get an idea of what they do, and how much articulation it takes before they even do anything. Most of the time team drivers are only posting setups from tracks with ideal conditions and their setups tend to only vary with small changes.
This is a good answer. There are some situations where you'd want to remove one or both of the sway bars, and there are probably more situations that you'd want both on the car (as long as you race on nice tracks and have ample traction).
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