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Old 05-10-2012, 03:38 PM
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They ARE rubber, added a few shims and still does it. Heres a quick video i put up to share. Hoping its the old wheels like i said they are about 4 years old RP brand. ANyone able to measure the inside diameter of your rims i just checked these ones and coming up with about 44.34 mm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Qm...e_gdata_player
You are using the kit front driveshafts right and running a spool? If so then what you are hearing is chatter which is normal when using none ECS type driveshafts.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:48 PM
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You are using the kit front driveshafts right and running a spool? If so then what you are hearing is chatter which is normal when using none ECS type driveshafts.
Thanks Fred....SO the "chatter" is that from hitting the inner rim from the vibration?Is this much of a concern while running it on the track?
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Originally Posted by FiremanKen View Post
Thanks Fred....SO the "chatter" is that from hitting the inner rim from the vibration?Is this much of a concern while running it on the track?
Nothing should be hitting the rim. The driveshafts are making the chatter. This is normal in pretty much any car that "does not" have ecs type shafts. (double jointed shafts) You won't have problems on the track, but if you do get ecs's you will feel the difference.
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Originally Posted by FiremanKen View Post
Thanks Fred....SO the "chatter" is that from hitting the inner rim from the vibration?Is this much of a concern while running it on the track?
As you start to approach and at full steering lock is what causes chatter and from that you will get vibration which can cause the rim to rub as well.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FiremanKen View Post
Thanks Fred....SO the "chatter" is that from hitting the inner rim from the vibration?Is this much of a concern while running it on the track?
I made a video of the same thing a while back for someone;

http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Skiddins/RC%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SpoolChatter.mp4
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So will gear diff in front help reduce chatter much?
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So will gear diff in front help reduce chatter much?
It depends on how heavy the oil in the front. If I switch to a gear diff in front with 60,000 its barely noticable. Ive tried 500,000 and putty and they both chatter. The ecs shafts are the way to go. Arrowmax makes a set that are better than the spec-r but not quite as nice as the xray ecs shafts.
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Originally Posted by zzztech View Post
So will gear diff in front help reduce chatter much?
Don't bother with a gear diff if your only reason is to get rid of servo chatter, as a spool will be faster.
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TOO LATE!
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Anyone else discovered CSO's engineering not to be up to much?

The driveshaft axles have been drilled in the wrong place, which leaves about .5 of play.... Didn't expect them to be as strong as the XRAY items, but I only wanted them for the rear where they arn't strained, but atleast expected them to have been drilled correctly.

Just a little warning for anyone looking to purchase.
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Originally Posted by steveonamission View Post
Anyone else discovered CSO's engineering not to be up to much?

The driveshaft axles have been drilled in the wrong place, which leaves about .5 of play.... Didn't expect them to be as strong as the XRAY items, but I only wanted them for the rear where they arn't strained, but atleast expected them to have been drilled correctly.

Just a little warning for anyone looking to purchase.
Caveat Emptor...imitation may be the highest form of flattery but it doesn't mean the quality will be the same as the original designer!!!!
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Originally Posted by steveonamission View Post
Anyone else discovered CSO's engineering not to be up to much?

The driveshaft axles have been drilled in the wrong place, which leaves about .5 of play.... Didn't expect them to be as strong as the XRAY items, but I only wanted them for the rear where they arn't strained, but atleast expected them to have been drilled correctly.

Just a little warning for anyone looking to purchase.
Yup, I bought some CSO axle assemblies to get me by in a pinch. Can't use them, the axle shafts are machined under size and sloppy in the bearings, creates erratic handling.
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Yup, I bought some CSO axle assemblies to get me by in a pinch. Can't use them, the axle shafts are machined under size and sloppy in the bearings, creates erratic handling.
I just picked up a set of CSO "tamiya style" hinge blocks for the T3'12. I didn't realize they don't offer 1.5degree and 2.0 degree toe blocks for the rear. ( only 2.5, 2.75, and 3.0 ) So if you want to use outboard toe, you are limited to no less than 3.5 degrees of rear toe (unless you use the CSO toe block in the rear and the standard X-ray roll center hinge blocks ( with shims ) in the front of the rear )
Also, apparently the optional T3'12 2.0 and 2.2mm chassis that CSO offers has a flaw, they drilled the holes the for the steering rack in the wrong spots....

So, basically... yeah, I'd be wary of CSO products at this point !

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I just picked up a set of CSO "tamiya style" hinge blocks for the T3'12. I didn't realize they don't offer 1.5degree and 2.0 degree toe blocks for the rear. ( only 2.5, 2.75, and 3.0 ) So if you want to use outboard toe, you are limited to no less than 3.5 degrees of rear toe (unless you use the CSO toe block in the rear and the standard X-ray roll center hinge blocks ( with shims ) in the front of the rear )
Also, apparently the optional T3'12 2.0 and 2.2mm chassis that CSO offers has a flaw, they drilled the holes the for the steering rack in the wrong spots....

So, basically... yeah, I'd be wary of CSO products at this point !

Jake D.
When I was testing our protoype back in January one of my suggestions was that we create additional blocks so that we can run outboard toe and still have all the overall toe options we needed. Whew it feels great to know that Exotek customers don't have to experience these types of isssues
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