Xray T3 2012
#1891
If you don't mind a bit of machining/drilling... You can open the Tamiya threaded top rings to 9.1mm... They will then accept the xray original top caps... Makes for a nice factory look and the Tamiya shocks of course work awesome... I've done this several times with out issue... Hope it helps ....
#1892
Hey,
Could someone please explain the different handling characteristics between adding a 1mm spacer between the front shock and tower and also adding a 1mm spacer between the front shock and tower but also running a 1mm spacer at the bottom on the wishbone?
I know both of these changes calm the front end down but im assuming in different ways?
Could someone please explain the different handling characteristics between adding a 1mm spacer between the front shock and tower and also adding a 1mm spacer between the front shock and tower but also running a 1mm spacer at the bottom on the wishbone?
I know both of these changes calm the front end down but im assuming in different ways?
#1893
The way I think of it is as if I'm holding a pipe in my hand. Put a blob of weight on each end of the pipe. Slide the weights out to the ends of the pipe and try to quickly rotate the the pipe back and forth. It's difficult to make the pipe change direction quickly because you have to over come the inertia of the weights. Now move the weights in toward your hand and it becomes easier the closer the weights get to your hand.
I think of the shocks as those weights. Put spacers behind the shocks and it becomes a little harder for the chassis to change direction quickly. It mellows out the chassis especially in high speed chicanes.
I think of the shocks as those weights. Put spacers behind the shocks and it becomes a little harder for the chassis to change direction quickly. It mellows out the chassis especially in high speed chicanes.
#1894
does the kit come with a spur gear... if so what size? on xray's website I could only find what the 11 came with?
also whats a good FDR to shoot for with 17.5 boosted? 5.5?
also whats a good FDR to shoot for with 17.5 boosted? 5.5?
Last edited by 4skinz80; 03-21-2012 at 11:18 AM. Reason: added info
#1895
Tech Master
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You'll want to replace the spur straight off the start. It comes with an 84t 48 pitch spur gear. With 17.5 boost I would shoot for about a 6.0 fdr. Just remember that boost in these is like boost in a real car, the more you put through the engine, the faster it will be, plus motor temps will be lower with a 6.0 to a 6.4 fdr
#1896
You'll want to replace the spur straight off the start. It comes with an 84t 48 pitch spur gear. With 17.5 boost I would shoot for about a 6.0 fdr. Just remember that boost in these is like boost in a real car, the more you put through the engine, the faster it will be, plus motor temps will be lower with a 6.0 to a 6.4 fdr
#1897
Tech Rookie
t3`12 plastic vs alu shocks - rebound
Hi guys,
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
#1898
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
Hi guys,
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
If you want 0 rebound, drill a small hole in the plastic top piece so air can escape when you tighten the cap. A hot pin will also work for making a little hole.
Just to be clear, don't do this on an assembled shock. You just want a hole in the very top, not through the bladder.
#1899
Tech Master
iTrader: (26)
Hi guys,
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
I don't think the aluminum shocks are warranted unless you are like some who can't stand plastic shocks on their $500 racing kit.
Just my 2cents.
#1900
Hi guys,
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
I got me a t3`12 for this year outdoor racing, though I'm really having a hard time getting the rebound on the plastic kit shocks even on all 4, without air in it.
I might be doing something wrong here, but I doubt it cause I tried every possible way described on the internet, and the manual.
Now I remember reading somewhere that the Alu shocks (308306-O) are much easier to set the rebound on.
My question is, is this really the case? I have seen the manual, and it definitely looks easier, but is this really true? Cause to be honest, the instructions to set the rebound for the plastic shocks seems easy too.
I hope you guys can help me out.
Patrick
go to page 105 on this thread. Perfect way to do it. Alum shocks are not needed to do it. I know the alum shocks have the bigger pistons, 1.0 to 1.1, if you want a little more traction. My plastic shocks are set w/ 0 rebound, but it was a pain to do it before i read this.
i hope this helps
#1901
Do you have a post count, page count changes as each person changes the page preferences.
#1903
A+ New Option Parts for T3
Adjust Alu. Lower Suspension Holder -0.5mm
Adjust Alu. Lower Suspension Holder -0.5mm
#1904
Tech Rookie
Locked: I have yet to figure out what kind of % rebound I like. I started with the basic setup for the t3, that would be 25% of rebound. I tried the way you described, only thing I did different is I put the bladder in the cap of the shock, and then screw it on. But after the shock cap was screwed on the shock shaft would push it self out (100% rebound). lol I even used some spare plastic shims from the kit to make sure all shocks were pressed in the same amount of mm before I screw the top cap on.
I have my shocks on 25% right now (after like 7/8 tries), only problem now is that when I pull the shock shaft out it sucks it self back 1/1.5mm in? I guess this is a problem?
Dane: I'm not trying to get 0% rebound. And no I'm not one of the guys who think the plastics look ugly, IMO they look kinda nice with the orange bits, just a pain to build again IMO.
All others: Thanks for your answers, going to try a couple more things.
Patrick
I have my shocks on 25% right now (after like 7/8 tries), only problem now is that when I pull the shock shaft out it sucks it self back 1/1.5mm in? I guess this is a problem?
Dane: I'm not trying to get 0% rebound. And no I'm not one of the guys who think the plastics look ugly, IMO they look kinda nice with the orange bits, just a pain to build again IMO.
All others: Thanks for your answers, going to try a couple more things.
Patrick