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Old 03-14-2012, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt W
Are you looking for more initial steering or more middle to exit?
Ideally both, but perhaps mainly mid, I'm having to slow too much for corners.

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Old 03-14-2012, 07:25 AM
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how much smoother would the car be with the ceramic ball bearing set from xray? any one bought this and tried it? im looking at making the change if need be. some help appreciated.
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Originally Posted by sagejyoung
how much smoother would the car be with the ceramic ball bearing set from xray? any one bought this and tried it? im looking at making the change if need be. some help appreciated.
I think you'd be better off just buying the cheap $1 bearing and just tossing them when they get a little gritty.
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Can somebody explain arm sweep to me please?
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Originally Posted by sagejyoung
how much smoother would the car be with the ceramic ball bearing set from xray? any one bought this and tried it? im looking at making the change if need be. some help appreciated.


...not needed. take the money and buy extra tires.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiddins
Ideally both, but perhaps mainly mid, I'm having to slow too much for corners.

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Ive had a look at your setup and here's a few ideas-

+ First thing try a 1.3 front roll bar (loads of steering)
+ Raise front ride height to 5.5, same as rear to give front end more roll
+ Lay down rear shock (better rotation middle to exit)
+ 1 degree front toe out instead of 0.5 ( better steering around sweeper and initial turn in, also better stability)
+ lower ackerman to 1mm or 0mm to get more mid to exit steering
+ Lengthening front turnbuckle link will give you more mid to exit steering as well.

Hope some of those ideas help!!
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:50 PM
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Is the Center Mount servo thingy released yet? In stock anywhere, I can't seem to find it anywhere.

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/pro...ount%20-%20Set
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt W
Ive had a look at your setup and here's a few ideas-

+ First thing try a 1.3 front roll bar (loads of steering)
+ Raise front ride height to 5.5, same as rear to give front end more roll
+ Lay down rear shock (better rotation middle to exit)
+ 1 degree front toe out instead of 0.5 ( better steering around sweeper and initial turn in, also better stability)
+ lower ackerman to 1mm or 0mm to get more mid to exit steering
+ Lengthening front turnbuckle link will give you more mid to exit steering as well.

Hope some of those ideas help!!
Cheers. Although I started with the longer front link (middle)
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mb3195
The front of the top deck has had a slot put in it, the slot in the middle was increased on the front end.

With the chassis, 0.75mm has been taken in on both sides front and rear in each of the corners. If you compare it to yours you will see the down stop parts on chassis seems to stick out further on the photos.

You can also see the servo has been moved fully inboard!
I noticed the Exotek T3'11 chassis (which I just removed) is narrower along each side than the kit '12 chassis.

Despite the extra cutouts the current '12 chassis feels almost identical when flexing it in my hands to the Exotek 11 chassis.

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Old 03-14-2012, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiddins
I noticed the Exotek T3'11 chassis (which I just removed) is narrower along each side than the kit '12 chassis.

Despite the extra cutouts the current '12 chassis feels almost identical when flexing it in my hands to the Exotek 11 chassis.

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hey skiddins with all this set up talk can u explain to me what arm sweep is?
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by theatriks
hey skiddins with all this set up talk can u explain to me what arm sweep is?
Is or does?

It's when you put thicker shims at the front of the front wishbone pivot block and use thinner shims at the back of the front wishbone.
Effectively giving the front arms a 'swept back' look.

I believe it's supposed to help with turn in at corner entry.
Although when I've tried it outdoors it's been of limited use, I think it requires good grip to begin with and on tight carpet tracks it can make the car hook on sweeping corners

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Old 03-14-2012, 05:24 PM
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Is or does?
both actually. i think i know what it is but not sure.

On your setup for more steering, have you tried to lower or remove the 2mm spacer on the top of your shock. i found that having that spacer, made the steering lazy, to me. I have recently gone to the short link in the front and i like it for steering, and if i went longer, middle link, that also made the steering slower.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigz84
both actually. i think i know what it is but not sure.

On your setup for more steering, have you tried to lower or remove the 2mm spacer on the top of your shock. i found that having that spacer, made the steering lazy, to me. I have recently gone to the short link in the front and i like it for steering, and if i went longer, middle link, that also made the steering slower.
The 2mm is for arm sweep, not on the shock.
I also started with middle hole front links and went to shorter, which helped.
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Originally Posted by dr_hfuhuhurr
Is the Center Mount servo thingy released yet? In stock anywhere, I can't seem to find it anywhere.

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/pro...ount%20-%20Set
I'm looking too?
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Xpress
I think you'd be better off just buying the cheap $1 bearing and just tossing them when they get a little gritty.
Originally Posted by jag88
...not needed. take the money and buy extra tires.
yea thanks guys, should i change the bearings for a smoother drive train? do the xray ones work? and should i go the ceramic route?
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