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Old 11-18-2004, 12:28 PM   #1
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anybody knows the release date of the 415 MS? what will it cost in the US?

is there an online-shop to get it for sure?
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Old 11-18-2004, 04:36 PM   #3
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Anyone know what the exact differences between the TRF415 and TRF415MS?

Specifically, will I be able to upgrade my 415 to an 415MS?
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You'd be better off just buying the 415MS...there is just too much to upgrade to make it worth the cost.
Differences:
-2.5mm chassis instead of the 3mm
-New shock towers
-Blue shocks
-Bulkheads are supposed to have material shaved from them to reduce their weight. The motor mount bulkhead will be the heatsink type.
-Heatsink beam
-Low friction white belts
-Locked center pulley on the layshaft
-LW reversable suspension
-Belt Tensioner
-I am not sure on the front if it will be a one-way or a spool. More than likely it will be a spool since the car they are modeling this off of ran a spool. guarante it will not be a difff.

Think that's about it!

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More information on the 415MS can be found in the "Tamiya 415" thread.
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Actually, now I'm glad I got the 415 instead of the 415MS. I definitely want the thicker chassis for carpet. I already picked up the LW suspension and the locked center pulley. I'll pick up the other stuff as things wear out. Thanks for the clarification.

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You'd be better off just buying the 415MS...there is just too much to upgrade to make it worth the cost.
Differences:
-2.5mm chassis instead of the 3mm
-New shock towers
-Blue shocks
-Bulkheads are supposed to have material shaved from them to reduce their weight. The motor mount bulkhead will be the heatsink type.
-Heatsink beam
-Low friction white belts
-Locked center pulley on the layshaft
-LW reversable suspension
-I am not sure on the front if it will be a one-way or a spool. More than likely it will be a spool since the car they are modeling this off of ran a spool. guarante it will not be a difff.

Think that's about it!
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:12 AM   #7
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did you try the 3mm AND the 2.5mm on carpet? what is the difference in the 415?

we tried 2 / 2.5 / 3mm with the Pro4 and the thinnest works best!
the car had more grip... ok, we tried only on carpet in switzerland, you maybe have better (grippier) carpet in US.

I just sold my 2 months old pro4 - that's why I'm waiting for the 415 MS!!!! hope it will be available soon... can't wait anymore.
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anybody knows the release date of the 415 MS? what will it cost in the US?

is there an online-shop to get it for sure?
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Release date in Japan is 25th of november. Should be the same in the US, Europe and Australia.
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Actually, now I'm glad I got the 415 instead of the 415MS. I definitely want the thicker chassis for carpet. I already picked up the LW suspension and the locked center pulley. I'll pick up the other stuff as things wear out. Thanks for the clarification.
For carpet, you are better off staying with the stock suspension, especially if the track is tight!
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did you try the 3mm AND the 2.5mm on carpet? what is the difference in the 415?

we tried 2 / 2.5 / 3mm with the Pro4 and the thinnest works best!
the car had more grip... ok, we tried only on carpet in switzerland, you maybe have better (grippier) carpet in US.

I just sold my 2 months old pro4 - that's why I'm waiting for the 415 MS!!!! hope it will be available soon... can't wait anymore.
Greets,
Frank
I don't know what the difference is between carpet in the States and Europe is but typically in the states, the stiffer the chassis the better (up to a certain point). Here, if you need chassis flex to gain more traction on carpet, the car is probably not set up correctly to begin with. I can only speak for this at my local carpet track however.
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according to this page, the 415MS kit includes a 3mm lower chassis

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=49349
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according to this page, the 415MS kit includes a 3mm lower chassis

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=49349
I think that could be a mistake. All the info so far on the car says that's it's a 2.5mm chassis. I beleive this info can from the Tamiaya Japan website....I could be wrong however.
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I don't know what the difference is between carpet in the States and Europe is but typically in the states, the stiffer the chassis the better (up to a certain point). Here, if you need chassis flex to gain more traction on carpet, the car is probably not set up correctly to begin with. I can only speak for this at my local carpet track however.
I think youre speaking on racing with foams.
From what I have heard from different people using a thinner chassis may be better with rubber tires. As we have no or very few racing with foams here in Europe this will be the difference.
Also we are using non smelling tire traction only this also will be a difference. I think all of the "oil of wintergreen" based tire traction compounds will provide more grip.
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I think that could be a mistake. All the info so far on the car says that's it's a 2.5mm chassis. I beleive this info can from the Tamiaya Japan website....I could be wrong however.
Yes the 3mm chassis info is wrong. I just saw a 2.5mm chassis at the Zillisheim race when Marc had one with him. But Im not sure if it really was a MS chassis as this one had the battery more toward the front.
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