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Old 03-21-2013, 05:42 PM   #466
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Will there be a version with M3 mounting screws for guys wanting to run it on cars designed for the R5 front end?
Why stop there

How about a FULL Metric REV
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:14 PM   #467
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Why stop there

How about a FULL Metric REV
Where is that "Like " button... LOL

I have mentioned it to Bruce... I know others have to... fingers crossed

Either way the new Front End looks awesome... so simple, yet so adjustable.. Hat's off to Bruce and the crew behind it.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:15 PM   #468
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Will there be a version with M3 mounting screws for guys wanting to run it on cars designed for the R5 front end?
That is indeed the plan. There is at least one set of bulkheads for the r5 bolt pattern cut to test fit. It is also designed for exact wheelbase as the current front end, so just bolt it on and go.

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Sorry Dave, That will NEVER happen.
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That is indeed the plan. There is at least one set of bulkheads for the r5 bolt pattern cut to test fit. It is also designed for exact wheelbase as the current front end, so just bolt it on and go.



Sorry Dave, That will NEVER happen.
Never say "Never"
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Id be confident in saying never haha

Bruce is American, his car is American.. We all have ase tools so no biggie

Speedmerchant 1/12 is the only one 1/12 I've really ever run, since the rev3 I think. Even most other cars still use 3/32 for the axle screws lol
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:11 PM   #471
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Well Bruce is in good company

After some research about NASA
It appears that even they are still in the SAE era

http://nasawatch.com/archives/2012/0...ll-cant-1.html
"Following the loss of the Mars Climate Observer, the NASA Office of Inspector General initiated a review of the Agency's use of the metric system. By law and policy, the metric system is the preferred system of measurement within NASA. However, our review found that use of the metric system is inconsistent across the Agency. A waiver system, which was required by law and put into effect to track metric usage and encourage conversion, is no longer in use."
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I can say that most certainly there won't be a metric merchant coming out of massachusetts. There is a metric rev6 technically. It didn't come from massachusetts.
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R/C began in the US in the 1960s and its very cool that our 1/12 designers are still at it, and actually making things here, unlike everyone else who has shipped production to Asia. Don't mean to get to political but a lot of people are patriotic but somehow see no problem exporting their manufacturing. Oh well. I am glad Bruce and his team do what they do.
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I can say that most certainly there won't be a metric merchant coming out of massachusetts. There is a metric rev6 technically. It didn't come from massachusetts.
We're not saying outsource the production of parts. We just want metric screws so we can run the same screws and use the same tools as on our sedans. Before I got my AE 12 and WGT I had 2 sets of tools and had to keep 2 boxes of screws and nuts. Now I have less stuff to lug around.

All you need to do as get the hardware (costs the sames as SAE screws), use 90 deg countersinks on the carbon and M3 taps for your alloy bits.

FYI, Yes I plan on getting a SpeedMerchant 12 and WGT.

Can you run the battery transverse on a Rev.7?
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We're not saying outsource the production of parts. We just want metric screws so we can run the same screws and use the same tools as on our sedans. Before I got my AE 12 and WGT I had 2 sets of tools and had to keep 2 boxes of screws and nuts. Now I have less stuff to lug around.

All you need to do as get the hardware (costs the sames as SAE screws), use 90 deg countersinks on the carbon and M3 taps for your alloy bits.

FYI, Yes I plan on getting a SpeedMerchant 12 and WGT.

Can you run the battery transverse on a Rev.7?
Can we say screw metric, make our touring cars use standard hardware again? Haha.

You can't run transverse on a rev 7. Car works great as intended in the inline position.
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Bruce will never go to metric. HaVe you seen his box of hardware?
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We're not saying outsource the production of parts. We just want metric screws so we can run the same screws and use the same tools as on our sedans. Before I got my AE 12 and WGT I had 2 sets of tools and had to keep 2 boxes of screws and nuts. Now I have less stuff to lug around.

All you need to do as get the hardware (costs the sames as SAE screws), use 90 deg countersinks on the carbon and M3 taps for your alloy bits.

FYI, Yes I plan on getting a SpeedMerchant 12 and WGT.

Can you run the battery transverse on a Rev.7?
regarding tools, i am a little fuzzy on your math, it seems a 12R5 increases the number of tools. won't pinions still need a 1/16", clamp hubs 3/32", rear wheels 1/8? maybe an AE diff uses a metric screw on the clamp hub, but don't they still use 4/40 to attach the wheels? but 1/8" and 1/16" are always needed no matter.

regarding hardware, it does mean an assortment of 4/40's to keep seperate from the m3's.

the only part i would like to see go is the 8/32's on the front end, no matter 4/40 or m3, just avoid AE's layout where the grip length is limited by the lower arm attachment(which from the pictures of the NOS, it looks like he did). that's nice because not everyone starts their fronts under 1.62 (oops make that 41.?)
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Why stop there

How about a FULL Metric REV
by full, do you really want M2.5's to attach rear wheels? or better yet the $30 a pack custom machined m3 cap screws that serpent uses?
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There is no price diff between M3 and 4-40 screws.

The only SAE tools in my pit box are an 11/32 diff nut driver and a 3/32 Allen driver for wheel screws. The clamping hubs use a 5/64 driver which happens to equal 2mm.

Screw metric huh!?! It's that attitude that is leading to the US getting left behind. We need to get with the times and play ball with the rest of the world or WE will be a 3rd world country in few years.
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All in good fun

I know Bruce & Joel will never change, not such a bad thing though

So where is that next rev......
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