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angry-alien 08-11-2011 07:28 AM

Xray | 302042 | LOWER SUSPENSION HOLDER | HELP
 
http://www.world-model.com/catalog/p.../XR-302042.jpg




Hi all, I have the above parts and i want to use them with my xray t1... I am having a little trouble figuring out the significance of the numbers on them though...
the packaging has no instructions and i have not seen any setup sheets speaking to their use...

Can someone explain them to me or direct me to some literature that gives a good outline...

Thanks
Alien

Johnny Wishbone 08-11-2011 10:15 AM

I'm guessing but I'd say they numbers reflect some sort of toe change. (I think)

Fred Hubbard 08-11-2011 10:29 AM

Here is a link to all of the T1 related literature:

XRAY T1 EVO2

angry-alien 08-11-2011 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone (Post 9512087)
I'm guessing but I'd say they numbers reflect some sort of toe change. (I think)


I was guessing this at first... but the pairs when places side by side dose not suggest that... If I place a pair #4s for example together, the pin holes faces opposite directions...


Originally Posted by Fred Hubbard (Post 9512146)
Here is a link to all of the T1 related literature:

XRAY T1 EVO2

I was hoping for something a little more specific to the holders... I have been through those documents... nothing speaking to the significance of the numbers...

thanks
Alien

Xpress 08-11-2011 11:16 AM

Just a guess, but did they integrate the "toe shim" into the holders? The pcs seem to be of differing thickness. Perhaps they are used to make wheel track adjustments? The pcs should be opposite....one for the front of the arm and one for the back of the arm.

sidecarphil1 08-11-2011 11:19 AM

are they not for roll centre adustment ??

Johnny Wishbone 08-11-2011 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by angry-alien (Post 9512200)
I was guessing this at first... but the pairs when places side by side dose not suggest that... If I place a pair #4s for example together, the pin holes faces opposite directions...

I would think that is proper.

They are described as integrated lower rollcenter holders, I think the intergrated is so you don't have to mess with the small plastic shims that they used, less potential of falling out with this setup. But I dont see how the bushing fits in theose units.

angry-alien 08-11-2011 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Xpress (Post 9512316)
Just a guess, but did they integrate the "toe shim" into the holders? The pcs seem to be of differing thickness. Perhaps they are used to make wheel track adjustments? The pcs should be opposite....one for the front of the arm and one for the back of the arm.


Originally Posted by sidecarphil1 (Post 9512327)
are they not for roll centre adustment ??


Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone (Post 9512585)
I would think that is proper.

They are described as integrated lower rollcenter holders, I think the intergrated is so you don't have to mess with the small plastic shims that they used, less potential of falling out with this setup. But I dont see how the bushing fits in theose units.


Hi Guys... they are mentioned in the setup books as rollcenter holders, but how the heck are they fitted symmetrically?... I also believed that the 'Toe' feature is built in, but installation does not make a whole lot of sense... see the below photo...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...c/DSCN7003.JPG

I would think it would be made so that a #5 holder is fitted on the left rear and another on the right rear...

Alien

corallyman 08-11-2011 01:22 PM

Doesn't Xray still offer their forums to ask questions. I would go there to ask. The moderators should know.

Steve

angry-alien 08-11-2011 01:26 PM

I did make a posting on that forum... no replies yet... since I have seen so many issues resolved here, I made the post to this forum first...


Alien

Madmaxaus 08-11-2011 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by angry-alien (Post 9512714)
Hi Guys... they are mentioned in the setup books as rollcenter holders, but how the heck are they fitted symmetrically?... I also believed that the 'Toe' feature is built in, but installation does not make a whole lot of sense... see the below photo...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...c/DSCN7003.JPG

I would think it would be made so that a #5 holder is fitted on the left rear and another on the right rear...

Alien

go and have a look at the t1 mini instructions

these blocks fit in number order eg from front to rear, so 1, 2 are fitted to the front of the front arms, 3 ,4 rear front arms , 5 ,6 front of rear arms and 7 ,8 rear of rear arms
hope this helps

angry-alien 08-11-2011 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Madmaxaus (Post 9512916)
go and have a look at the t1 mini instructions

these blocks fit in number order eg from front to rear, so 1, 2 are fitted to the front of the front arms, 3 ,4 rear front arms , 5 ,6 front of rear arms and 7 ,8 rear of rear arms
hope this helps

Yes, Yes, yes!... I just had a look at the suspension assembly in the Mini's book... it's making sense now... wow... see!! this forum always produces answers...
thanks a lot guys... i'll make some tests tonight and post my findings... see bellow sequence for the suspension mounted on the inside of the bulks... I should be
able to work out the sequence now for mounting them on the outside...

Lower Rear Suspension Holders (some Toe is built in with combination)
Right front: Holder 4 (wide)
Left front: Holder 5 (wide)
Right rear: Holder 6 (narrow)
Left rear: Holder 7 (narrow)

Lower Front Suspension Holders (no Toe built in)
Right rear: Holder 3
Left front: Holder 3
Right front: Holder 2
Left rear: Holder 2


Alien

angry-alien 08-11-2011 02:30 PM

Oh... i found the bellow while searching on google... no explanation on setup, but the rear shot clearly illustrates how the holders influence 'Toe'...

http://www.overrc.com/courses/course...ayurbainj3.jpg


http://www.overrc.com/courses/course...ayurbainj2.jpg

Alien

angry-alien 08-11-2011 08:24 PM

hey guys, I just want to say thanks again... i believe i am little more comfortable with the holders now...

Alien


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